Monday, June 21, 2010

"Decoy Jews" to Fight Anti-Semitism in Amsterdam?

Mebbe.

Apparently Amsterdam already has decoy old people and decoy gays to try to catch scumbags who prey on them.

After reading some of the recent stuff in the blogosphere about how bad the harassment of women by men is in the streets of NYC, I've though the NYPD ought to do something like this to combat it.

I also think it should be legal for any male to beat the living sh*t out of any male who harasses women, and legal for any woman to shoot any male who harasses her...but I'm not holding my breath for such laws to come about...

7 Comments:

Anonymous Jimmy Doyle said...

I also think it should be legal for any male to beat the living sh*t out of any male who harasses women, and legal for any woman to shoot any male who harasses her.

Not sure you've thought this one through Winst.

2:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@Jimmy--
This is a classical meme of the NRA.
An armed society is a polite society.

There's a kernel of truth in it, and Winston's first notion: punch him in the nose! is right on target.

A memorable example here.
-mac

4:44 AM  
Blogger Winston Smith said...

I'm with ya, mac.

My renewed outrage about this stuff was ignited by the discussion of Hey Baby, the video game.

I long ago parted ways with contemporary feminism, but we're compatible on this point.

7:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have to agree with Jimmy on this one. Aren't there already enough guys spoiling for a fight under color of chivalry without it being a legal defense? And imagine the results of a shoot-your-harasser law when applied by, say, Andrea Dworkin. We have institutions like the police precisely because random people on the street cannot be trusted to mete out the rougher parts of justice in anything like an impartial manner.

10:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Neither Winston nor I is actually supporting shooting people for being rude*, but if you don't think the occasional punch in the nose isn't a necessary part of life, you must never have been in Junior High School (grades 5-9). There's no need for cops in casual fisticuffs. (Bringing in the broken beer bottle in the bar is another story.)

* although opinions differ.

-mac

1:05 AM  
Blogger Winston Smith said...

Yeah, I mean women who are *actually* harassed, not what we might call "Dworkin-harassed"--that is, just offended by the very existence of male humans. And it doesn't count if the guy is e.g. spoiling for a fight and using alleged "looking at his girlfriend" as an excuse. I mean real, genuine harassment.

As Thomas Nagel says somewhere, sometimes a punch in the mouth is the only rational response.

6:15 PM  
Anonymous Jimmy Doyle said...

Winst, it doesn't matter that you *mean* "real harrasment"; the sort of laws you propose would *in fact* lead to many people using the relevant pretexts to assault and murder with impunity. It's no trick to propose laws if you can add the proviso "of course, this law should only be invoked when someone's really guilty."

12:08 AM  

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