Conservatives Love Hillary???
Chait discusses this weird development at TNR.
It's always easy to make up explanations, but this phenomenon strikes me as genuinely rather puzzling. For years now the most vocal conservatives have spewed venom at HRC, fabricating the most outlandish fantasies about her character and actions. Now they are in love with her! What gives??
I mean, take Rush Limbaugh. I used to try to listen to that loudmouth asshole sometimes, until it became clear that there is absolutely nothing to be gained and much to be lost by listening to his improvisational vituperation. I mean, he basically would simply sit there and make up little anti-Clinton fantasies over and over again. In one notable case, he began with a news item that said, basically, HRC was two weeks late with a book manuscript, but the publisher said that it was a pretty routine kind of delay and not a problem. After ten minutes of freestyle riffing on this, it became: Bill and Hillary use their secret super-villain powers to frighten people into giving them money for free, on pain of possibly fatal retaliation, and HRC thought that she was so much better than all other people that she deserved millions of dollars for free, and would consider anyone who thought she was bound by a contract a target for destruction, and any publisher would be too afraid of her wrath to actually ask for the manuscript. Seriously. It usually takes paranoid schizophrenics to make up stuff like this. Now he like loves her and wants to have 10,000 of her babies. Is he just incapable of adopting any but the most outrageously irrational positions? WTF gives??
I mean, many liberals (myself included) used to think she was more-or-less o.k., but now actively dislike her. But that is fairly easily explainable largely in terms of the scorched earth campaign she's running against Obama.
But this conservative 180 on her just seems baffling, doesn't it?
Chait discusses this weird development at TNR.
It's always easy to make up explanations, but this phenomenon strikes me as genuinely rather puzzling. For years now the most vocal conservatives have spewed venom at HRC, fabricating the most outlandish fantasies about her character and actions. Now they are in love with her! What gives??
I mean, take Rush Limbaugh. I used to try to listen to that loudmouth asshole sometimes, until it became clear that there is absolutely nothing to be gained and much to be lost by listening to his improvisational vituperation. I mean, he basically would simply sit there and make up little anti-Clinton fantasies over and over again. In one notable case, he began with a news item that said, basically, HRC was two weeks late with a book manuscript, but the publisher said that it was a pretty routine kind of delay and not a problem. After ten minutes of freestyle riffing on this, it became: Bill and Hillary use their secret super-villain powers to frighten people into giving them money for free, on pain of possibly fatal retaliation, and HRC thought that she was so much better than all other people that she deserved millions of dollars for free, and would consider anyone who thought she was bound by a contract a target for destruction, and any publisher would be too afraid of her wrath to actually ask for the manuscript. Seriously. It usually takes paranoid schizophrenics to make up stuff like this. Now he like loves her and wants to have 10,000 of her babies. Is he just incapable of adopting any but the most outrageously irrational positions? WTF gives??
I mean, many liberals (myself included) used to think she was more-or-less o.k., but now actively dislike her. But that is fairly easily explainable largely in terms of the scorched earth campaign she's running against Obama.
But this conservative 180 on her just seems baffling, doesn't it?
posted by Winston Smith at
2:03 PM
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No, Limbaugh's not supporting Hillary; he just wants Democrats to continue to slime each other than slime Republicans.
And Chait would rather show Hillary supporters as racist than Obama supporters as elitist. But both could be true.
Either way, Limbaugh wins. The slime flows---from the left, upon the left.
Limbaugh may have helped the MS Republicans shoot themselves in the foot recently in his "Operation Chaos" tomfoolery.
But our winner, comedian Rush Limbaugh. You will recall his Operation Chaos. No, not a reference to his doctor shopping. This was when he told Republicans in Mississippi to cross over and vote for Senator Clinton in the Democratic primary last week. Comedian never mentioned, he didn‘t know, didn‘t care, wasn‘t conscious at the time—we don‘t know—that Mississippi Republicans who did cross over in the primary could not then vote in next week‘s special Republican primary runoff for Congress in the state‘s first district. And that may wind up costing the more conservative of the two Republican candidates as many as 3,000 votes. That figures to be enough to give his more moderate rival the Republican nomination.
It gets worse. One of the Democrats running for the seat in the Mississippi first is considered more conservative than 85 percent of the Republicans in the state. Meaning Rush Limbaugh‘s big mouth may get a Democrat elected to Congress. Comedian Rush “Hoist on his own Petard” Limbaugh, today‘s Worst Person in the World!
Well, that's a pretty convoluted way to define success, but in OlbermannWorld, anything's possible.
More informative and to the main point, though, is the transcript from Olbermann's show itself (that you helpfully linked), which further puts the Democrat cannibalism on display.
But hey, I won't begrudge you your laugh, especially since you apparently think Olbermann's funny, a very low threshhold for amusement indeed.
Well, that's a pretty convoluted way to define success
No, the MS Republicans are the ones who took the hit, by having as many as 3,000 voters who excluded themselves from the Republican special election primary because they listened to the comedian instead of any common sense they might have about the importance of their votes vs. using them 'against Obama'.
The English have a saying, "Own goal", used when someone does something that inadvertantly hurts their cause.
That's what Olbermann was pointing out, not that it was a win or a sure thing for the Democratic candidate, but it helped him out in a small way at least.
apparently think Olbermann's funny, a very low threshhold for amusement indeed.
Yes, my low taste can be judged by the giggles I get from your posts as well, although Keith isn't disturbed enough to come up with the passive-agressive BS that you usually post when you come across something not to your liking......
Can't really tell what's going on from seeing only one side of the conversation, but the topic seems to be Limbaugh and Olberman. Now, of course, DA, I'd once again encourage you to avoid wasting your time in this way. Anybody who thinks that Limbaugh is o.k. and Olberman isn't--or that they're even somehow comparable--isn't going to be responsive to arguments. In fact, I'd guess that anybody who'd try to make them even roughly equivalent is just arguing for the sake of form.
But anyway a few things are clear here:
Olberman: partisan, but funny, smart, and usually has a bunch of good points. Has a good staff. They do their homework.
Limbaugh: Completely different league. Beyond hyper-partisan, not funny, not smart, no good points. Stupid douche bag. Lame staff. Nothing interesting there.
Olberman's too partisan for my taste, but at least there's a good but of there there. Limbaugh's just pathetic. More than a little sickening.
In fact, it's to the credit of liberalism that it has nobody equivalent to people like Limbaugh or Coulter.
No, you missed the point, WS, as you did in your original post. At least DA has a clue.
Some participants grew so angry that Gail Furman, a Democratic donor who is neutral in the race, bemoaned the divisions in the party. According to a source, Furman said that as a psychologist, she was saddened and upset that some of the party's leaders were displaying such raw and rancorous emotions.
http://www.observer.com/2008/clinton-donors-press-dean-fifth-avenue-bundler-summit
Oh, yes. Liberals are sooooo nice. Operation Chaos marches on.
"I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat."
Will Rogers
Well, to be fair, organized or not, yours is going to give mine another well-deserved thumping in November. Operation Chaos is a Hail Mary pass.
Oh, man, that Will Rogers quote always cracks me up.
Though this time,I have to say, it looks like the Dems have an organizational advantage. Though the Chapel Hill office is probably not representative, I've gotta say, I've never seen such an optimistic, well-organized, energetic campaign headquarters.
Which of course is what Barone was saying when Chait also missed the point in trying to get snide on a conservative.
In state after state, we have seen Obama do extraordinarily well in academic and state capital enclaves...
Obama does well in college towns.
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