Monday, October 27, 2014

Could Non-Citizens Decide The November Election? amazed by this, about possible non-citizen voting.
   Sounds pretty speculative at this point...and obviously it's not going to be either confirmed or disconfirmed by next week... But we need to figure out whether it's true by the '16 elections, obviously...
   No reason to freak out given what's in this op-ed...but definite reason to massively fund more research asap.


Blogger Aa said...

Given the limited data set, and the admitted weaknesses (within the article) of the data, I'm not losing any sleep over this.

10:45 PM  
Blogger Winston Smith said...

Yeah, me neither.

6:52 AM  
Blogger Dark Avenger said...

There's no upside for non-citizens to vote illegally in an election. Most of them who aren't here legally try to stay off the radar, and those who are here aren't going to risk their stay here for a vote that probably wouldn't make a difference anyway.

10:10 AM  
Blogger Winston Smith said...

Yeah, though what's the upside, practically speaking, to voting anyway? I mean, in the vast majority of elections, if you vote to change the outcome, you're fooling yourself...

And if non-citizens *are* voting, and are voting out of a kind of national or civic pride, that makes an already sad situation sadder.

Anyway, this will probably turn out to be wrong, as do most studies that seem suggesting early on.

10:37 AM  
Blogger Dark Avenger said...

You vote to participate, regardless of the outcome.

10:48 AM  
Blogger Winston Smith said...


I'm just saying that that point seems to throw into question your point about there being no upside for non-citizens to vote. In bottom-line terms, there's no upside for citizens to vote, either.

Of course, there's way more of downside for non-citizens...which is maybe what you were really saying.

10:53 AM  
Blogger Dark Avenger said...

Yes, there's always more of a downside to doing something illegal, that's my point.

What Bernard Shaw said.

11:31 AM  

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