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Little Green Footballs and Desecrating the Flag

Dunno whether you know about a wildly amusing site called "Little Green Footballs." Oh, man, it's a hoot. In a we're all going to die because humans are so stupid kind of way...

Anyway, if you have nothing better to do with your life, go check out the comments on this story about a radical Islamist group stepping on and tearing up an American flag.

These morons (the flag-stomping ones, not the anti-flag-stomping ones) have picked a great time for this little stunt. I'm sure it'll be used by the Republicans for their annual July 4th effort to undermine the First Amendment by passing the anti-flag-burning amendment.

I've often said that virtually the only thing that would ever prompt me to burn the flag would be passage of anti-flag-burning laws. Needless to say, I hope it doesn't come to that.

I've suggested in the past that we should establish a national sign-up list now of people who will burn the flag if and only if such laws are passed. We need to get a sufficiently large number of people to commit to this ahead of time, making it clear to the anti-free-expression crowd that there is no way they could arrest all of us.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cross burning, flag burning, Qur’an desecration. Why are people so obsessed by objects? Why not take the opportunity to consider the finer points of the ideas the objects represent? Show the burners, desecrators and urinators of the world what you're really made of.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sign me up. I have never burned a flag, and I never will, unless the flag-burning ban is passed.

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Yeah, you make me want to burn a flag and fire up a fattie with it. I hear you on this, WS.

I probably would have quit smoking by now if it didn't get my fellow Californians so deliciously indignant.

You can't legally smoke in any building here, but I light up just before I walk out the door. My little bit for freedom and civil disobedience. I'm a rebel, I tellya, a rebel. Fight the power!

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Blogger Winston Smith said...

Good point, m. I think it's creeping postmodernism of some kind--symbols over substance.

we're definitely on the same page here tvd. North Carolina just barely defeated a law banning smoking in all restaurants. (sadly it probably was b/c of financial self-interest, not b/c of good sense...) But the very consideration of the bill made be want to take up (tobacco) smoking... What a lunatic thing for the gov't to regulate. If the free market can solve any problem, you'd think it could solve that one...

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Winston, I paraphrased you in my post today. Hope you don't mind. If you do, let me know and I'll remove what I wrote. I made it sillier sounding but I kept the sentiments the same...and I linked to your post.

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Seems like a fair paraphrase to me. Thanks for the link.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any Constitutional amendment against flag desecration is bad. State laws already dictate a pledge of allegiance to the flag daily in many schools. Why is it that flag fetishists who tout flag laws don't chant the pledge every day? Their hypocrisy masks the old dark desire to make children and adults worship government daily at the ring of a government bell. Please oppose the amendment, and educate everyone about these new historical discoveries:

1. The original Pledge of Allegiance to the USA's flag used a straight-armed salute and it was the source of the salute of the monstrous National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazis). The gesture was not an ancient Roman salute. http://rexcurry.net/pledgesalute.html

2. The Pledge began with a military salute that then extended outward toward the flag. Due to the way that Francis Bellamy (the Pledge's creator) used the gestures, the military salute led to the Nazi salute. The Nazi salute is an extended military salute. http://rexcurry.net/pledge2.html & http://rexcurry.net/pledge_military.html

3. Bellamy was a self-proclaimed socialist in the nationalism movement and his dogma influenced socialists in Germany, and his pledge was the origin of their salute. Many people forget that "Nazi" means "National Socialist German Workers' Party." A mnemonic device is the swastika (Hakenkreuz in German). Although the swastika was an ancient symbol, it was also used sometimes to represent "S" letters joined for "socialism" under the German National Socialists. Hitler altered his own signature into the same stylized "S" letter for "socialist." http://rexcurry.net/bookchapter4a1a4.html

How the discoveries were made is a fascinating story in itself. I made the discoveries by accident during legal research involving litigation about the pledge. As a libertarian lawyer, I do pro bono work educating students and others about the right to reject the ritualism.

Fight the flag hags and their flag fetish and self-flagellation. Government's schools should not teach kids to verbally fellate flags each morning. It is like a brainwashed cult of the omnipotent state. For adults it is childish. Remove the pledge from the flag, remove flags from schools, remove schools from government.

A flag desecration amendment would desecrate the Constitution. Our leviathan government and its schools, and Bellamy and the Department of Education could inspire a comatose person to desecrate the flag, to pledge disallegiance, and to recite the declaration of independence.

Francis Bellamy and his cousin and cohort Edward Bellamy (author of the bestselling novel "Looking Backward") espoused "military socialism" worldwide. The Bellamy dogma was the same dogma that led to the "Wholecaust" (of which the Holocaust was a part): 62 million killed under the former Union of Soviet Socialist Republics; 35 million under the Peoples' Republic of China; 21 million under the National Socialist German Workers' Party. It was so bad that Holocaust Museums could quadruple in size with Wholecaust Museums to document the entire slaughter.

In the USA, the Bellamy dogma supported a government takeover of education. The government's schools imposed segregation by law and taught racism as official policy. The USA's behavior was an example for three decades before the Nazis. As under Nazism, the Jehovah's Witnesses, and blacks and the Jewish and others in the USA attended government schools that dictated segregation, taught racism, and persecuted children who refused to perform the straight-arm salute and robotically chant the pledge. Some kids were expelled from government schools and had to use the many better alternatives. There were acts of violence. When Jesse Owens competed in the 1936 Olympics in Germany, his neighbors attended segregated government schools where they saluted the flag with the Nazi salute. The U.S. practice of official racism even outlasted the horrid party. And the schools and the Pledge still exist. The Pledge is still the most visible sign of the USA's growing police state. Stop the USA's flag Nazis.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt repeated the Bellamy errors with his massive socialism, including the Civilian Conservation Corps and its military regimentalism ( as previously reported on Opinion Editorials at http://www.opinioneditorials.com/guestcontributors/rcurry_20050603.html ), as well as social security and its Nazi numbering ( as previously reported on Opinion Editorials at http://www.opinioneditorials.com/guestcontributors/rcurry_20050204.html ).

After segregation in government's schools ended, the Bellamy legacy caused more police-state racism of forced busing that destroyed communities and neighborhoods and deepened hostilities.

The flag desecration amendment is proof that government schools must end because they produce people and politicians who hate the Constitution and limited government.

Listen to a new talk-show appearance by RexCurry.net about the flag and the pledge http://rexcurry.net/rexcurry4.mp3

A more detailed version of the article above is at http://rexcurry.net/book1a1a1pledge-ch8a1a2.html

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