Students in MAGA Hats Mock Native American Veteran At Anti-Abortion Rally (?)
[Update: Turns out that this is, apparently, a pack of bullshit. Drum dude approached the kids, they didn't surround him, and, in fact, the kids had already been harassed by lefty counter-protesters. Links soon...but currently this looks like another case of the lefty media basically reporting the opposite of what actually happened in order to support their side.]
[Updater:
The media's fake news is fake.
Here's the whole video...nearly two hours worth. To repeat: the fake new is fake. The kids didn't harass Drum Dude. Drum Dude approached the kids and drummed in the one kid's face. Kid just stood there impassively. Some other American Indian dudes with Drum Dude yelled "go back to Europe" at the kids...which...if things had gone the other way would have been a paradigm of racism...so... Anyway. One day after the Buzzfeed debacle...another undeniable incident clearly revealing the strong leftward bias that pervades the MSM and social media.]
This sounds really bad, obviously...and lots of people are freaking out about it...
I don't have any inclination to excuse the kind of actions that seem to be indicated by the reports that are all over the place (e.g. Reddit)...
But I do have to say that I wouldn't be surprised if the description were slanted. That would be in keeping with the media's approach to such thing.
The standard description seems to be that these kids "surrounded" the guy drumming. (And: it doesn't matter to me what his race is, nor really so much that he's a veteran. This is just some people having a kind of disagreement or confrontation.) If true, then that's one kind of case. But it really matters who approached whom--you can't really tell from most of the videos who is getting in whose face. All we really see is two guys who are already in each others' faces. In fact, the kid is just standing there. If he initiated this, then he's the asshole...though that's all it seems to be to me. I'm not at all sure why this thing is blowing up like it is. There's no violence, it's just two Americans having a kind of not-entirely-friendly confrontation over politics. There are also reports of the kids chanting "build the wall"...but...the dude is American Indian...so...I'm not sure what the point of that would be. Could just be Yay for our side...
Then there are some not-exactly-insightful comments by the drummer about how "we're not supposed to have walls here," and "we never did before." This sort of all-walls-are-bad nonsense is just ridiculous and ad hoc. Nobody objects to the walls that herd people through passport control at airports. Not to mention that no one complains about the fact that almost all buildings have walls. That's just ridiculous. But anyway.
Anyway, not trying to excuse bad actions, but I've become skeptical of basically all this stuff by this point.
[Updater:
The media's fake news is fake.
Here's the whole video...nearly two hours worth. To repeat: the fake new is fake. The kids didn't harass Drum Dude. Drum Dude approached the kids and drummed in the one kid's face. Kid just stood there impassively. Some other American Indian dudes with Drum Dude yelled "go back to Europe" at the kids...which...if things had gone the other way would have been a paradigm of racism...so... Anyway. One day after the Buzzfeed debacle...another undeniable incident clearly revealing the strong leftward bias that pervades the MSM and social media.]
This sounds really bad, obviously...and lots of people are freaking out about it...
I don't have any inclination to excuse the kind of actions that seem to be indicated by the reports that are all over the place (e.g. Reddit)...
But I do have to say that I wouldn't be surprised if the description were slanted. That would be in keeping with the media's approach to such thing.
The standard description seems to be that these kids "surrounded" the guy drumming. (And: it doesn't matter to me what his race is, nor really so much that he's a veteran. This is just some people having a kind of disagreement or confrontation.) If true, then that's one kind of case. But it really matters who approached whom--you can't really tell from most of the videos who is getting in whose face. All we really see is two guys who are already in each others' faces. In fact, the kid is just standing there. If he initiated this, then he's the asshole...though that's all it seems to be to me. I'm not at all sure why this thing is blowing up like it is. There's no violence, it's just two Americans having a kind of not-entirely-friendly confrontation over politics. There are also reports of the kids chanting "build the wall"...but...the dude is American Indian...so...I'm not sure what the point of that would be. Could just be Yay for our side...
Then there are some not-exactly-insightful comments by the drummer about how "we're not supposed to have walls here," and "we never did before." This sort of all-walls-are-bad nonsense is just ridiculous and ad hoc. Nobody objects to the walls that herd people through passport control at airports. Not to mention that no one complains about the fact that almost all buildings have walls. That's just ridiculous. But anyway.
Anyway, not trying to excuse bad actions, but I've become skeptical of basically all this stuff by this point.
posted by Winston Smith at
10:27 AM
4 Comments:
You can pretty clearly see the Indian man approaching in this video. Also here's a statement from the students, since I don't believe WaPo even tried to get their side.
It's also worth noting that even if it's as bad as reported, the immediate response among woke twitter was to doxx these kids. The idea you would expose schoolkids to that sort of backlash over what amounts to trash talk at worst is downright malevolent. And since they actually got the story wrong, it's even worse.
Here's a writeup on Althouse with even more video. I don't know how anyone watches this and comes away with the impression these kids are in the wrong in any meaningful way. They were duped by a malicious activist and a more malicious press. I hope they consider a libel case.
Yeah, I was just poking around into this, and it seems pretty clear that the media's representation of this is a big-ass pack of lies. Looks absolutely like drum dude approached them. All the one kid did was to stand there.
Apparently the drum guy has a history of claiming racial harassment as well. This whole thing stinks to high heaven.
Seriously, I rarely think libel is a viable course, but this seems open and shut right now. These media organizations had to have had access to the full video because the native american guy was filming the whole thing, and then had to deliberately cut it to make the story work. They had intent to harm because the whole point of the story is to disparage the kids and insinuate racism which anyone with two brain cells knows will get them mobbed. Basically if a lawyer can show they had the full footage in discovery, they should take them down hard.
Post a Comment
Subscribe to Post Comments [Atom]
<< Home