Drum: "Has The Liberal Mainstream Suddenly Shifted Left?"
Drum says: no.
I say: yes.
My explanation for the disagreement: Drum's a wonky economic liberal, interested in wonky economic matters: hence his emphasis on tax rates, "free" college, and breaking up banks. The radical shift on the left has been more on matters of principle, social/cultural issues, and philosophical/theoretical questions: free speech, free assembly, transgender ideology/theory, tolerance for political violence (by the left), immigration enforcement and the very legitimacy of borders, "multiculturalism," and all the other kindsa stuff I carp about around here. The radical shift has been due to the re-emergence / ascendance of political correctness / social "justice"-ism. Aside from a lot of loose talk about socialism, I don't see much happening on the economic left (or the "political left" as Rorty calls it).
In fact, anti-Bernie-ism seems to be burbling up among progressives, with some complaining about how he's not "really left" because he won't join the call to eliminate ICE.
[For the love of God...don't look at the comments! DON'T LOOK AT THE COMMENTS!!! Believe me, you'll be much, much happier if you don't.]
I say: yes.
My explanation for the disagreement: Drum's a wonky economic liberal, interested in wonky economic matters: hence his emphasis on tax rates, "free" college, and breaking up banks. The radical shift on the left has been more on matters of principle, social/cultural issues, and philosophical/theoretical questions: free speech, free assembly, transgender ideology/theory, tolerance for political violence (by the left), immigration enforcement and the very legitimacy of borders, "multiculturalism," and all the other kindsa stuff I carp about around here. The radical shift has been due to the re-emergence / ascendance of political correctness / social "justice"-ism. Aside from a lot of loose talk about socialism, I don't see much happening on the economic left (or the "political left" as Rorty calls it).
In fact, anti-Bernie-ism seems to be burbling up among progressives, with some complaining about how he's not "really left" because he won't join the call to eliminate ICE.
[For the love of God...don't look at the comments! DON'T LOOK AT THE COMMENTS!!! Believe me, you'll be much, much happier if you don't.]
posted by Winston Smith at
4:25 PM
2 Comments:
Drum is talking about political positions, such as free college and medicare for all, not social/cultural issues, etc. This does not seem like an apples to apples comparison.
Here's someone who thinks the left is rising:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=672&v=ZIxs6vFIlNw
Not being a philosopher I don't have the "chops" to know whether this is good or not good. It made sense in many ways but that's not always a good metric?
Good? Crap? Onto something??
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