What Happens When You Don't Know Any Philosophy
Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry and the Abortion Debate
Replying to Yglesias, Mr. Gobry writes. That anti-abortion arguments "have nothing to do with metaphysics." Rather, they depend on the purely and irrefutably scientific conclusion that "life begins at conception." He continues:
Oddly enough, knowing some philosophy helps when you are going to talk about philosophical issues.
Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry and the Abortion Debate
Replying to Yglesias, Mr. Gobry writes. That anti-abortion arguments "have nothing to do with metaphysics." Rather, they depend on the purely and irrefutably scientific conclusion that "life begins at conception." He continues:
Now, science isn’t a moral guide. The fact that a fetus is a living human being doesn’t necessarily entail that it should receive legal protection. But again, resolving this issue requires no recourse to metaphysics.
It requires asking what are the criteria for qualifying as a person endowed with rights.O.k., here's the thing. Although there are a couple of ways to go here, basically what Mr. Gobry says entails that the crucial issue is in fact, a metaphysical one. Specifically, it's an issue about personhood. Nobody really thinks that every living human thing has rights--else we'd have to say that every human cell has rights, and that even someone with their brain destroyed has rights. Nobody thinks that. Being human and being alive are not sufficient for having rights. That prompts us to ask the question: what additional conditions must be met? One common way to put the question is, roughly: what makes something a person? (where a person is taken to be something that definitely does have rights.) And that is a metaphysical question.
At first blush, it seems to me and many others that the entire project of the Enlightenment and modern Western civilization is premised on the idea that every single human being has certain inalienable rights. That these rights are not earned through accomplishment or inherited from forebears but that they are, well, universal, received simply by virtue of being human, and that it is incumbent on any just, or at least liberal, government to protect the rights of all human beings under its writ, not just the most visible.
Oddly enough, knowing some philosophy helps when you are going to talk about philosophical issues.
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Shorter Gobry: I don't really know what *metaphysics* is.
Actually Winston, this spookily reminds me of an oldie but goodie from the past, where I attempted, unsuccessfully apparently, to get a certain individual to understand that that was the crucial determination in the legal arguments about abortion:
http://philosoraptor.blogspot.com/2006/02/all-your-uterus-are-belonging-to-us.html
Wait...TVD was not responsive to reasons? I find that hard to believe, sir...
Just stopped by when this bookmark popped up while changing computers. You miss me, and I don't blame you. The blog was worth reading back then. I don't blame you for driving me away, though. For example, the post in question shows Mr. Carroll completely unequipped to engage my argument, then unable to proceed civilly.
Things have gotten even worse out there in the polity since those days, but at least we can credit Mr. Smith's blog with being ahead of the curve.
I do miss Mr. Smith, who may ban this comment or perhaps let it through. It's a pity civil discussion has grown nigh-impossible between gentlepersons of good will. I see the comments sections here largely empty now. So it goes. Perhaps in 2013, when the Dems are out and Mr. Smith finds himself once again in desperate need of catharsis, which as I recall was why he started the blog in the first place.
In the meantime, victory dances over my grave remain premature, and unearned. Peace.
Hi, Tom. I felt guilty as soon as I took a shot at you in your absence. It was meant to be funny...still, bad form.
I don't ban your comments, as you know.
Things have, indeed, gotten even worse, with one side clearly leading the charge to perdition.
Hope all's well with you, and peace also.
"For example, the post in question shows Mr. Carroll completely unequipped to engage my argument, then unable to proceed civilly"
Thanks for the comic relief Tom. But we can let anyone who reads that thread decide who was and was not equipped to engage an argument.
Left an earlier comment that I think got eated by blogger.
Anyway, thanks for the comic relief Tom.
But I'll leave it to Winston or anyone else here to read that thread and decide who was "unequipped to engage [an] argument".
Hey, at least you aren't on the vanguard of political awfulness in America, LC...
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