Wednesday, September 23, 2009

Big Mother Is Watching You...Drink Soda
And Boy Is She Mad

First, a confession: although I'm in a state of semi-constant outrage about conservative meddling in our lives, I tend to be more sanguine about liberal meddling.

But
this stuff's starting to get ridiculous.

There are two basic problems with these efforts to regulate soda (Saletan alludes to them both). First, the science simply does not support the conclusions. I have it on excellent authority that the statistics on which passed studies of this kind have been based are disastrous. Furthermore, in many cases the authors of the studies refuse to reveal their data. Much of what passes for science in this area is, basically, not science at all. The second problem is that the government has no moral right to micromanage our private lives. Sodaphobes point to the fact that individual decisions to drink soda have public costs. But virtually everything one does has some kind of effect on others. If the fact that an action has some effect or other on other people is grounds for regulating it, then this licenses the government to regulate all our actions.

Liberals have tended to seek control over our lives on medical grounds, whereas conservatives have tended to seek it on (sometimes covertly) religious grounds. Conservatives basically just want us to shut up and do as we're told, but liberals tend to take a less overtly objectionable route through premises concerning the health and well-being of ourselves and others. Big Brother wants you to stay in line; Big Mother wants you to be safe. "Don't run with scissors" is sound advice, of course, but Big Mother is willing to pass legislation to back it up if you naughty children don't behave. "Don't drink soda," however, may not even be sound advice.

First Big Mother wanted our firearms. Then she wanted our cigarettes. Then our hamburgers. Now our soda. Even if you, like me, don't smoke and rarely drink soda...or even if you aren't interested in some others of these things...you still ought to be concerned about this general approach, which we might describe as "soft totalitarianism.". There are, of course, limits to the costs other people should be expected to bear for my stupidity. However (a) first we need actual scientific evidence to back up the relevant claims, not the laughable flawed-statistics-on-top-of-secret-data BS we generally get from the anti-soda crowd, and (b) we must resist efforts to micromanage people's lives. We may have to make laws in the most egregious cases, but once we allow the government to stop us from harming ourselves in any way, or allow them to meddle in any actions that have any effects on others, all is lost.

And if you still aren't convinced, note that things like anti-soda hysteria resonate with many independents and drive them across the aisle. Frivolous though it may seem (or even be), it's the kind of transparently irrational meddling in private decisions that absolutely infuriates many people who might otherwise be sympathetic with a more Democratic agenda.

It's time to stand up to Big Mother and let her know that we're all grown up and can make decisions for ourselves, even if that means we might occasionally get all crazy and drink a Coke.

6 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The second problem is that the government has no moral right to micromanage our private lives.

true enough, but government can stop the massive subsidies to corn producers that make high fructose corn syrup so prevalent and artificially cheap. You want to drink a ton of soda, fine. But pay the true cost.

11:45 AM  
Blogger Winston Smith said...

2 problems:

1. We have no good reason to think that the true cost is anything like Popkin et. al. say it is.

2. We start getting down to that level, then we're taxing Big Macs and failure to exercise.

As for the subsidies: that's a different story. I absolutely agree that those have to go.

The current jihad against HFCS is political (or perhaps asethetic), but not scientific. There is, as yet, no good reason to think that calories consumed as HFCS are different than calories consumed in other forms.

I have no allegiance to HFCS one way or the other; I am utterly indifferent to it. But the evidence just isn't there.

1:58 PM  
Blogger Joshua said...

R. Ford Denison of This Week in Evolution has two very interesting subtopics that he likes to cover, one being Darwinian agriculture (he apparently has a book coming out on the topic) and the other being the hypothesis that there is a trade-off between reproduction and longevity that leads to the evolution of dietary feedback mechanisms.

I mention it because one of the proposed feedback mechanisms involves "metabolic syndrome" -- i.e. a spectrum of diabetes-like diseases --, and he footnotes a pair of papers on soft drinks. Specifically, research that indicates a link between metabolic syndrome and not only sugar but even artificial sweeteners.

I mean, I'm still of the opinion that, since there's no such thing as second-hand soda drinking, banning or restricting access to soda in the general public is probably not worth the creeping nanny state-ism. Restricting access in public schools or something in the same way that many have eliminated candy bars and whatever else? Sure, seems reasonable. But not for the general public.

Still, while we can debate about whether anything should be done as a result, I don't think there's any serious doubt that developing a two or three soda per day habit is unhealthy.

2:44 PM  
Blogger Joshua said...

Hit submit too soon. Here's another study specifically looking at a link between diet soda and diabetes: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19151203?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

2:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is, as yet, no good reason to think that calories consumed as HFCS are different than calories consumed in other forms.

I'm not arguing that. Just that those calories are artificially cheap and because of that probably get put in a lot of food that they normally wouldn't be.

P.S. I was lazy and didn't click on your link so I don't know numbers Popkin is using. Sorry. :-)

3:54 PM  
Anonymous abject funk said...

I look at this as a taxation issue. Since we as a culture refuse to tax ourselves (or others, like say, the really rich) at a level that can sustain our desire for public services, we have to do a bunch of gimmicky stuff like sin taxes.

Soda falls into this category. In short, our society has really gotten to the point where we won't tax you unless you "deserve it." Our lack of a broad-based, adequate revenue streams for necessary government programs combined with a national puritanism makes this type of stuff inevitable.

I also of course agree with the HFCS arguments from the economic side. There is lots of stuff that would be better for everyone to grow other than corn. On on one last note, what would happen if the Iowa caucuses did not happen so early in the election cycle?

7:50 PM  

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