48% of NJ Republicans Not Birthers; 49% of NJ Dems Not Truthers; 18% of NJ Conservatives Are Beasters
At TPM:
You people are all f@#$ing crazy.
(H/T The Mystic)
[NOTE: if you click through to the results, you see that the truther question was: "Do you think George Bush had prior knowledge of the 9/11 terrorist attacks?" But, of course, in some sense it is uncontroversial that he did have some such knowledge--he had been informed, for example, that OBL was "determined to strike inside the U.S." The question we really want here is something like "Did Bush have specific, actionable knowledge that planes were going to be used in attacks against the Pentagon and WTC on or about 9/11/01?" That's the kind of question that will tell us how many truthers there really are. (This kind of problem doesn't afflict the Antichrist question.)
Also note: if people merely say that something is possible, it's not clear whether they are merely saying that it is a logical or conceptual possibility, that it is a physical/natural possibility, or that it is a real and relevant possibility. (This problem does afflict the Antichrist question, I suppose.)]
At TPM:
Dave Weigel points out that one out of every three New Jersey conservatives think that Obama could be the anti-Christ. To be precise, 18% of self-identified conservatives affirmatively say that Obama is the anti-Christ, with 17% not sure. Among the self-identified Republican label, it's 14% who say Obama has the number 666 hidden underneath his hair, plus 15% who aren't sure.Read the whole depressing thing.
You people are all f@#$ing crazy.
(H/T The Mystic)
[NOTE: if you click through to the results, you see that the truther question was: "Do you think George Bush had prior knowledge of the 9/11 terrorist attacks?" But, of course, in some sense it is uncontroversial that he did have some such knowledge--he had been informed, for example, that OBL was "determined to strike inside the U.S." The question we really want here is something like "Did Bush have specific, actionable knowledge that planes were going to be used in attacks against the Pentagon and WTC on or about 9/11/01?" That's the kind of question that will tell us how many truthers there really are. (This kind of problem doesn't afflict the Antichrist question.)
Also note: if people merely say that something is possible, it's not clear whether they are merely saying that it is a logical or conceptual possibility, that it is a physical/natural possibility, or that it is a real and relevant possibility. (This problem does afflict the Antichrist question, I suppose.)]
posted by Winston Smith at
3:19 PM
1 Comments:
WS,
Amen -- I read it. I'm depressed, too. I don't know what it would take to get more people to pay attention and take governance more seriously.
On a not-unrelated note, have you ever read Neil postman's _Amusing Ourselves to Death_? It is a remarkably prescient book from the early '80s that pretty well describes where we are at, IMHO.
best,
Jim
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