Monday, April 14, 2008

Hillary Clinton, Firearms Enthusiast?

Seriously? This is Clinton's response? Her father taught her to shoot out behind the "cottage"? I gotta say, this isn't really doing much to establish her gun cred with me. And unless by "cottage" you mean shed... I mean, look. Who has a cottage? Who even uses the word "cottage?" Really. Who?

And remember: HRC, unlike Obama, thinks that the government should confiscate the firearms of law-abiding folks during disasters like Katrina. Putting a few rounds downrange out back of the old cottage isn't going to make up for that, Hill.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, outside behind the cottage where Alistair, whose pleasant manner and crisp tongue should define every butler, had placed a lunceon for father and me of foie gras imbibed with a caper finish through the character of its unique gavage. At the end of our jaunty, playful duel I thought of the ladies in the servant's quarters. My connection to them felt stronger than ever before.

1:51 AM  
Blogger Tom Van Dyke said...

Wow, Anonymous. Half the Demo Party seems to hate Hillary's guts totally and thoroughly.

If you're any indication, and I suspect you are.

But if she were the party's nominee, I also suspect you'd hate the GOP nominee even more, even if he were a mellow fellow like Sen. McCain.

Even Rush Limbaugh, who disagrees with McCain 49% of the time, never dissed him like this.

Mebbe you'll pull together at the end, but I'm getting the willies around about Democrats bigtime. This "unity" thing is scary. It eats it own.

3:07 AM  
Blogger Winston Smith said...


OMFG, A, that's a certified coffee-spewer.

9:11 AM  
Blogger Random Michelle K said...


Have you had even passing acquaintance with a thing called a sense of humor?

10:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Of course Tom has an acquaintance with a sense of humor. He called John McCain a 'mellow fellow', didn't he?:

1:49 PM  
Blogger Tom Van Dyke said...

Yes, Michelle, I got that it was designed to be funny. The underlying rancor was even more remarkable, though.

5:40 PM  
Blogger The Mystic said...

Maybe if Luke Skywalker were here, he could defeat the underlying Rancor...

9:00 PM  
Blogger The Mystic said...

Scratch that.

What I should've said follows:

"Well, Tom, I guess if there's an underlying rancor, that makes you...Jabba the Hutt."

Although, I fully suspect Tom would be entirely susceptible to Jedi mind tricks. Jabba was a badass in that sort of way.

9:01 PM  
Blogger lovable liberal said...

Never is a long time to evade head-Rush's insults.

2:12 AM  
Blogger Tom Van Dyke said...

If Hillary were the nominee, nobody here would be laughing.

That's what's funny, and you know it's so.

4:47 PM  
Blogger lovable liberal said...

So, TVD, wouldn't that imply that you should be laughing at John McCain?

Really, is laughter the standard? 'Cause I'm laughing at McCain, and he's definitely not my guy.

There are, however, alternatives who would make me choose McCain. Romney. Huckabee. Boehner. Cheney!

Politics is about choosing, and that often involves as much nose-holding as I have to do whenever you think you've made a thoughtful point. I could easily hold my nose for Hillary, despite her creeping McCainism. Heck, I was for Edwards, so Obama is already a second choice for me, and he has at times reinforced conservative talking points, too. In 2004, I worked for Dean, then for Kerry, and contributed to both. And even the sainted Bill Clinton carried his own stinking baggage and required some nose-holding for me in 1996.

This can't be a new concept for you; why are you pretending not to understand it?

Of course, WS is a little more embittered by the way politicians join into the stupidity of what passes for discourse in the American media. I try to avoid Chris Matthews and Tim Russert - even Bill Maher's panel discussions - as the opposite of edifying, so maybe it's easier for me not to hold a grudge come November.

7:05 PM  
Blogger Tom Van Dyke said...

I'm not being disingenuous. The snideness toward Hillary among Democrats is only because Obama's gonna win.

And the way the Hillary supporters got driven off Daily Kos is more of the same viciousness. It's creepy and it's scary.

And for the record, I thought Letterman on McCain was quite funny:

"He looks like the guy at the hardware store who makes the keys … He looks like the guy who can’t stop talking about how well his tomatoes are doing ... He looks like the guy who goes into town for turpentine ... He looks like the guy who always has wiry hair growing out of new places ... He looks like the guy who points out the spots they missed at the car wash."

7:15 PM  
Blogger Winston Smith said...

You feedin' the trolls again LL?

10:54 PM  
Blogger lovable liberal said...

Sorry! I was feeling so good from the beautiful spring day here in New England that I needed someone from the blissy sweet online world to tell me that liberalism makes me miserable, someone to bring me back to my normal destined self. But they let down again!

9:25 AM  
Blogger Tom Van Dyke said...

Hard to say if you're miserable because you're liberal, or a liberal because you're miserable.

6:47 PM  
Blogger lovable liberal said...

Thanks, TVD, I knew you'd help out just in case I wasn't kidding.

If you were to substitute 'conservative' for 'liberal', you then have to take 'able' out (twice) and add in the appropriate indefinite articles.


9:58 PM  
Blogger Tom Van Dyke said...

Wrong again, LL.

Do you have any more slanders, or can I go now?

6:23 PM  
Blogger lovable liberal said...

Sure, 'bye. Don't let the door hit you on the...

8:38 PM  
Blogger Tom Van Dyke said...

Not quite yet, LL. There are a number of slanders I've let go over the years in the name of "civility."

They're coming home to roost right now. This is all too amusing to let go just now.

2:13 AM  

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