tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post7610324948914287355..comments2024-03-26T12:23:29.784-04:00Comments on Philosoraptor: Winston Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-37545202060910715802007-11-30T22:51:00.000-05:002007-11-30T22:51:00.000-05:00And Hagel was a bit more than merely wrong in his ...And Hagel was a bit more than merely wrong in his remarks about the "surge."<BR/><BR/>"...the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since Vietnam."<BR/><BR/>I mean, c'mon, man. "Respectable" Republican means somebody who talks trash against the administration, and this is trash. He's retiring and good riddance. A shame Bob Kerrey isn't running for his seat.Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-67548199102007928362007-11-30T15:38:00.000-05:002007-11-30T15:38:00.000-05:00The arrogance charge is valid. However, I'm incli...The arrogance charge is valid. However, I'm inclined to narrow it to the disastrous drift of the Bremer years in Iraq and disinclined to apply it to everything.Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-40949380976605596572007-11-30T09:43:00.000-05:002007-11-30T09:43:00.000-05:00Yeah, I noticed that part, too. He was wrong about...Yeah, I noticed that part, too. He was wrong about the surge. But right about the rest.<BR/><BR/>One thing to remember here, again, is that, aside from people who had an antecedent commitment to Bush, these are basically the conclusions that just about everybody has reached. And even many who DID have an antecedent commitment to Bush have reached them. This gives us a touchstone if we can't agreeWinston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-24278088287234039102007-11-30T03:33:00.000-05:002007-11-30T03:33:00.000-05:00I think Hagel and Joe Leiberman are both men of go...I think Hagel and Joe Leiberman are both men of good conscience, altho both parties would be willing to trade. (OK, OK, Lieberman is technically an independent, but being the VP nominee for the Democrats in 2000 should cound for something.}<BR/><BR/>[OK, Henry Wallace---you've got a point here.]<BR/><BR/>Men of good conscience can disagree, or so I've been told.<BR/><BR/>From the link:<BR/><I>[Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-87472762395289745742007-11-29T19:59:00.000-05:002007-11-29T19:59:00.000-05:00Permalink<A HREF="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/29/hagel-criticizes-arrogant-bush-white-house/" REL="nofollow">Permalink</A>lovable liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15616294696912710046noreply@blogger.com