tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post6933593703292240342..comments2024-03-26T12:23:29.784-04:00Comments on Philosoraptor: Winston Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-28342126064594933482010-06-25T00:08:19.127-04:002010-06-25T00:08:19.127-04:00Winst, it doesn't matter that you *mean* "...Winst, it doesn't matter that you *mean* "real harrasment"; the sort of laws you propose would *in fact* lead to many people using the relevant pretexts to assault and murder with impunity. It's no trick to propose laws if you can add the proviso "of course, this law should only be invoked when someone's really guilty."Jimmy Doylenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-26483136393824793932010-06-24T18:15:45.294-04:002010-06-24T18:15:45.294-04:00Yeah, I mean women who are *actually* harassed, no...Yeah, I mean women who are *actually* harassed, not what we might call "Dworkin-harassed"--that is, just offended by the very existence of male humans. And it doesn't count if the guy is e.g. spoiling for a fight and using alleged "looking at his girlfriend" as an excuse. I mean real, genuine harassment. <br /><br />As Thomas Nagel says somewhere, sometimes a punch in the Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-23016200950267587632010-06-24T01:05:16.583-04:002010-06-24T01:05:16.583-04:00Neither Winston nor I is actually supporting shoot...Neither Winston nor I is actually supporting shooting people for being rude*, but if you don't think the occasional punch in the nose isn't a necessary part of life, you must never have been in Junior High School (grades 5-9). There's no need for cops in casual fisticuffs. (Bringing in the broken beer bottle in the bar is another story.)<br /><br />* although <a rel="nofollow">Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-83885551602350269942010-06-23T10:23:22.184-04:002010-06-23T10:23:22.184-04:00I have to agree with Jimmy on this one. Aren't...I have to agree with Jimmy on this one. Aren't there already enough guys spoiling for a fight under color of chivalry <i>without</i> it being a legal defense? And imagine the results of a shoot-your-harasser law when applied by, say, Andrea Dworkin. We have institutions like the police precisely because random people on the street cannot be trusted to mete out the rougher parts of justice in Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-90690104468618521132010-06-23T07:37:26.208-04:002010-06-23T07:37:26.208-04:00I'm with ya, mac.
My renewed outrage about t...I'm with ya, mac. <br /><br />My renewed outrage about this stuff was ignited by the discussion of <a href="http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2010/06/13/hey-baby-hey-baby-hey/" rel="nofollow">Hey Baby</a>, the video game.<br /><br />I long ago parted ways with contemporary feminism, but we're compatible on this point.Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-27659655895636363352010-06-23T04:44:45.429-04:002010-06-23T04:44:45.429-04:00@Jimmy--
This is a classical meme of the NRA.
An a...@Jimmy--<br />This is a classical meme of the NRA.<br />An armed society is a polite society. <br /><br />There's a kernel of truth in it, and Winston's first notion: punch him in the nose! is right on target. <br /><br />A memorable <a href="http://examinedlife.typepad.com/johnbelle/2004/04/i_know_you_thin.html" rel="nofollow">example</a> here.<br />-macAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-43198632025470484082010-06-22T02:18:30.097-04:002010-06-22T02:18:30.097-04:00I also think it should be legal for any male to be...<i>I also think it should be legal for any male to beat the living sh*t out of any male who harasses women, and legal for any woman to shoot any male who harasses her.</i><br /><br />Not sure you've thought this one through Winst.Jimmy Doylenoreply@blogger.com