tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post6593774089520284677..comments2024-03-26T12:23:29.784-04:00Comments on Philosoraptor: John Horgan: "Should Research On Race And IQ Be Banned?"Winston Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-18368353665613187092016-09-18T07:40:08.972-04:002016-09-18T07:40:08.972-04:00You started with the fallacy of the continuum (yet...You started with the fallacy of the continuum (yet again), failed to even *attempt* to explain why we should allow such fallacious reasoning in the case at hand, and ended (yet again) by running away from argument and asking for experts. I provided this (yet again)...and you said it didn't count (in effect) because he didn't agree with your preferred position. <br /><br />This is like a Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-16649361985831811332016-09-17T17:19:29.241-04:002016-09-17T17:19:29.241-04:00Sorry, Winston, but your effort to verify 1850s sc...Sorry, Winston, but your effort to verify 1850s science about humanity has hit a wall, once again.<br /><br />I suggest you go out and drink, to celebrate your victory. <br /><br />Dark Avengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02220642215040873632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-52198903670592191992016-09-17T15:40:55.082-04:002016-09-17T15:40:55.082-04:00LOOOOOOOL
TVDA, outmatched in argument at every t...LOOOOOOOL<br /><br />TVDA, outmatched in argument at every turn, finally, about a year ago, exclaims: "Show me even one biologist!"<br /><br />I explain that it doesn't take a biologist, that the arguments show that the race nominalism arguments are logically invalid, attacking a straw man, and predicated on a cartoonish view of natural kinds...<br /><br />I acknowledge that the Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-69162865864860356972016-09-17T14:33:52.923-04:002016-09-17T14:33:52.923-04:00http://anthropomics.blogspot.com/2012/03/rant-on-r...http://anthropomics.blogspot.com/2012/03/rant-on-race-and-genetics.html<br /><br /> Of course the discovery that people in different places are different is a trivial one. At issue is the pattern of those differences and its relation to the classification of the human species. To equate the existence of between-group variation to the existence of human races is to miss the point Dark Avengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02220642215040873632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-68154571277541961862016-09-17T12:35:31.620-04:002016-09-17T12:35:31.620-04:00Jesus, DA, how can you be so clueless?
1. We'...Jesus, DA, how can you be so clueless?<br /><br />1. We've been through all this before--*all of it.*<br /><br />2. As before: Jerry Coyne:<br />https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/are-there-human-races/<br /><br />3. As before: it's largely in the U.S., where the relevant political pressure is operative, that race nominalism is trendy. Get outside of the U.S. and belief Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-48969769982510927572016-09-17T12:10:16.949-04:002016-09-17T12:10:16.949-04:00Find me one biologist, Winaton, just one, who beli...Find me one biologist, Winaton, just one, who believes that the concept of human races has a biological underpinning. <br /><br /><br />We found that high intelligence is familial, heritable, and caused by the same genetic and environmental factors responsible for the normal distribution of intelligence. <br /><br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4286575/<br /><br />You see, WinstonDark Avengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02220642215040873632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-48087127735491468452016-09-17T09:57:38.095-04:002016-09-17T09:57:38.095-04:00You're a better man than I am, Mystic.
I real...You're a better man than I am, Mystic.<br /><br />I really was posting without comment... Just sort of contemplating it or...well...posting it...<br /><br />My principles are against it, for all the reasons you list.<br /><br />But there's part of me that just wants to hide from race-and-IQ research because it isn't coming out the way I want it to, and...I dunno...bad bad bad all badWinston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-6521338137569851852016-09-17T09:47:33.055-04:002016-09-17T09:47:33.055-04:00Yeah, see, I already made that Galileo joke about ...Yeah, see, I already made that Galileo joke about you, so you have to think of something different to respond with...<br /><br />Though I probably should have acknowledged that the phlogiston quip was at least pretty funny.<br /><br />Nobody around these parts thinks that (Ex) (Gx and Lx) entails (x) (Lx --> Gx). <br /><br />The only thing really relevant in your comment is:<br /><br />> Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-6834972036860206782016-09-17T09:35:25.497-04:002016-09-17T09:35:25.497-04:00I can't get over the fact that these people op...I can't get over the fact that these people opposed to merely observing an apparent correlation between race and IQ seem to be victims of their own inability to understand the simple fact that odious ends are not warranted by such observations.<br /><br />Per the article, for example; if it is true that Hispanic people have, on average, a lower IQ than white people, that does not justify The Mystichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00813641115915460692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-76229188094394142102016-09-17T08:58:03.178-04:002016-09-17T08:58:03.178-04:00You remind me of the Church leaders who refused to...You remind me of the Church leaders who refused to look through Galileo's telescope, Winston.<br /><br />As Carl Sagan put it:<br /><br /><b>The fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.</b><br /><br />To the Dark Avengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02220642215040873632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-23862337746427013452016-09-17T08:17:11.653-04:002016-09-17T08:17:11.653-04:00And yet it movesAnd yet it movesWinston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-29382888620937227462016-09-17T08:04:50.833-04:002016-09-17T08:04:50.833-04:00The next thing you'll know, they won't be ...The next thing you'll know, they won't be able to get funding for studying phlogiston or to study the luminiferous ether.Dark Avengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02220642215040873632noreply@blogger.com