tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post6371651157535067031..comments2024-03-26T12:23:29.784-04:00Comments on Philosoraptor: Winston Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-69531512500640643092008-04-14T13:38:00.000-04:002008-04-14T13:38:00.000-04:00Jake Tapper:Obama Allies Avoid Trying to Explain M...Jake Tapper:<BR/><BR/><BR/>Obama Allies Avoid Trying to Explain Most Controversial Part of His Remarks<BR/><BR/>http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/obama-allies-av.htmlTom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-80851945989629633922008-04-14T09:34:00.000-04:002008-04-14T09:34:00.000-04:00Of all the loony BS non-issues that have been spot...Of all the loony BS non-issues that have been spotlighted in this campaign, that OJ thing probably takes the cake.<BR/><BR/>It's especially bizarre to me, since I usually do exactly the same thing--that is, ask for OJ instead of coffee. I had no idea that this was in any way noteworthy...but I guess that just shows how far gone I am into elitist pointy-headed intellectual-dom.<BR/><BR/>I'm only Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-65529007438645956212008-04-14T08:25:00.000-04:002008-04-14T08:25:00.000-04:00Damn, I fed the troll again. My bad.It's not real...Damn, I fed the troll again. My bad.<BR/><BR/>It's not really a surprise that he can't find any argument to engage and yet he continues to find some reason to argue. Even when I agreed with him on his central point...lovable liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15616294696912710046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-20068988439951401142008-04-14T02:45:00.000-04:002008-04-14T02:45:00.000-04:00I'm off Bush.Obama calls all these messes "distrac...I'm off Bush.<BR/><BR/>Obama calls all these messes "distractions." I call them saying what he really thinks. I don't think they're gotchas.<BR/><BR/>As for Rev. Wright, I don't believe Obama agrees with him per se. But I think he won't stand up to him, just as he won't say anything about Carter meeting with Hamas.<BR/><BR/>And you really didn't assert a single fact or engagable argument, LL, Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-89567018141833682612008-04-13T21:31:00.000-04:002008-04-13T21:31:00.000-04:00Jimmy D., thanks for a wonderful excursion to Scot...Jimmy D., thanks for a wonderful excursion to Scotland. (Note to TVD: Don't bother.)<BR/><BR/>WS, the oj story (not OJ!) is limned by Media Matters <A HREF="http://mediamatters.org/items/200804110004" REL="nofollow">here</A>.<BR/><BR/>TVD: Yes, our differences are basic and extend well beyond words. I never said it was <I>all</I> technique, but this series of media ruckuses is. You'll lovable liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15616294696912710046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-5253973445574763062008-04-13T15:41:00.000-04:002008-04-13T15:41:00.000-04:00Hey Winst,Cf:http://flyingrodent.blogspot.com/2008...Hey Winst,<BR/><BR/>Cf:<BR/><BR/>http://flyingrodent.blogspot.com/2008/04/let-them-eat-bullshit.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-36946713423083940882008-04-13T10:07:00.000-04:002008-04-13T10:07:00.000-04:00What's up with oj???What's up with oj???Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-36140702239376111362008-04-13T01:12:00.000-04:002008-04-13T01:12:00.000-04:00It's not all technique, mate. It's not just about...It's not all technique, mate. It's not just about "words."<BR/><BR/>We must overcome our pomo addiction to thinking that it is.<BR/><BR/>I'm gonna try to treat you straight-up from here on in, that our differences are in basic philosophy on the nature of man, not reducible to an exchange of ill will because of it.<BR/><BR/>I really think Barack Obama thinks certain stuff, and so do you. It makesTom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-82747732313633745992008-04-12T22:47:00.000-04:002008-04-12T22:47:00.000-04:00Well, jeez, Tom-the-American-people, I didn't say ...Well, jeez, Tom-the-American-people, I didn't say Rove is behind it, only that it's his technique.<BR/><BR/>If I understand your objection without cutting and pasting your dilatory links...<BR/><BR/>'Cause I have to say this last is incoherent even for you.<BR/><BR/>Nothing "real" can come out of the TV talking heads, though they can manufacture hot air even more plentifully than politicians.lovable liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15616294696912710046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-21698295573820653892008-04-12T21:48:00.000-04:002008-04-12T21:48:00.000-04:00Having one foot in academia and one foot still pla...<I>Having one foot in academia and one foot still planted in rural MO, I think I have some kind of perspective on this stuff. Most of the people I'm close to on each side of this fence are non-snobs about the other side, but it's clear that snobbery does exist in both places.</I><BR/><BR/>This is true.<BR/><BR/>However, sometimes, it's not just all talk. <BR/><BR/>WS risks falling into the Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-25830785034973057752008-04-12T20:13:00.000-04:002008-04-12T20:13:00.000-04:00Interesting point, LL.Yeah, sometimes it seems tha...Interesting point, LL.<BR/><BR/>Yeah, sometimes it seems that anybody who's smart, is interested in ideas, or has interesting ideas is automatically painted as an elitist snob, no matter how un-like that he may be. It's like the view is: if you're not a dolt, you're a suspect. And, of course, with W, it sometimes used to seem that being dim was supposed to be sufficient to make him just reg'lar Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-45909579454987853132008-04-12T18:47:00.000-04:002008-04-12T18:47:00.000-04:00WS, it's the Rovian approach - try to damage your ...WS, it's the Rovian approach - try to damage your opponent's strong suit. My take is <A HREF="http://lovable-liberal.blogspot.com/2008/04/bitter-truth.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>.<BR/><BR/>Here's a guy who's not at all rich by Presidential standards, who actually has some experience outside the economic elites, and two wealthy elite opponents are faking the common touch. The elite media is lovable liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15616294696912710046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-21104514672056872722008-04-12T15:54:00.000-04:002008-04-12T15:54:00.000-04:00But the worst of it is that anyone who disagrees w...But the worst of it is that anyone who disagrees with Obama [and we are led to presume, leftist orthodoxy] is being irrational.<BR/><BR/>How is civility and mutual respect possible in that environment? <BR/>I have encountered this myself. <BR/><BR/>;-}Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.com