tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post4985295287949895293..comments2024-03-26T12:23:29.784-04:00Comments on Philosoraptor: Beyonce WorshipWinston Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-62321729270910008942017-02-14T22:12:50.956-05:002017-02-14T22:12:50.956-05:00Winston, there are two questions with different an...Winston, there are two questions with different answers. One: does she deserve all the over the top praise? Of course not. "Deserve" has nothing to do with clickbait. The other is "did she deserve a Grammy?" I think the answer is probably yes. I don't pretend to listen to Beyoncé all that often--recently it's more imagine dragons and 90s alt rock. But I can recognize Pete Mackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675790226494153847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-23101789137035276112017-02-14T16:47:09.673-05:002017-02-14T16:47:09.673-05:00Pete: what about that video impresses you so?
Si...Pete: what about that video impresses you so?<br /><br />Side-note: I think we probably disagree here, and I'd love to have an actual conversation about it (I love analyzing and understanding music), but I find it's hard to discuss music with people because people often love music so deeply as to be offended at the suggestion that it's not as great as they think it is. I lived a The Mystichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00813641115915460692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-59498054391118893792017-02-14T16:16:03.158-05:002017-02-14T16:16:03.158-05:00You know, I honestly don't know what to say ab...You know, I honestly don't know what to say about that. I've only heard the song in passing before, maybe not even the whole thing, and never paid much attention to it. I kind of like (what seems to me like) the hint of reggae-esque syncopation at points...but really it just doesn't grab me...and I'm not sophisticated/smart enough about music to have detached appreciation that'Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-89903050905393123892017-02-14T15:44:15.381-05:002017-02-14T15:44:15.381-05:00Like I said, different.
https://youtu.be/PeonBmeFR...Like I said, different.<br />https://youtu.be/PeonBmeFR8o?list=RDQxsmWxxouIM<br /><br />You may not like it, but I suspect you'll be impressed.Pete Mackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675790226494153847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-71883995853505604732017-02-14T12:21:10.541-05:002017-02-14T12:21:10.541-05:00Just for the record, I'm not committed to any ...Just for the record, I'm not committed to any proposition about Beyonce sucking or anything. I just don't really get whatever there is in her music to get...and *a fortiori* I don't get the hyperbolic, sycophantic adulation of stuff like what Drum links to. <br /><br />Incidentally, though, I agree with the consensus about *Hamilton*: basically unbelievably, off-the-scale, absurdly Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-89350205610700122772017-02-14T11:37:19.395-05:002017-02-14T11:37:19.395-05:00@Mystic
Easy to test: go watch Lemonade videos, co...@Mystic<br />Easy to test: go watch Lemonade videos, compare to the same for Adele's win. The former are _different_. You don't have to like the genre to get it. (For example, I don't like most rap, but Hamilton and some others is really great stuff.)Pete Mackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675790226494153847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-89588061259892277122017-02-14T07:44:22.082-05:002017-02-14T07:44:22.082-05:00Well, if you want to get serious, define acceptabl...Well, if you want to get serious, define acceptable criteria for her achievement of the reaction you cite among her fans and then look to see if she fits the bill.<br /><br />I personally suspect she's great for a pop star, and okay-ish in the grand scheme of music, but everyone has separate criteria for establishing such things. Some people just want a catchy tune, some people want The Mystichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00813641115915460692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-89584772920235629432017-02-13T23:56:42.832-05:002017-02-13T23:56:42.832-05:00Well yes, it's silly, but it's mostly a re...Well yes, it's silly, but it's mostly a result of how gossip rags make money.<br />But yes, Beyoncé really is a very good and original musician. "Lemonade" is a fascinating piece of performance art. The only comparison I know to make is to Hamilton. Yeah, that good.Pete Mackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675790226494153847noreply@blogger.com