tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post3475019199055360258..comments2024-03-26T12:23:29.784-04:00Comments on Philosoraptor: Joss Whedon's Awful Speech on 'Feminism'Winston Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-31734203575743184312013-11-18T21:10:00.114-05:002013-11-18T21:10:00.114-05:00Pete Mack,
Yeah, I do realize that not all femini...Pete Mack,<br /><br />Yeah, I do realize that not all feminists are radical feminists. And I try not to judge a movement by its crazies under normal conditions. However, it matters to me that the centrist feminists are very hesitant to oppose the radical vanguard...and even hesitant to acknowledge its existence. In fact, denying its existence seems to be a conscious rhetorical strategy--criticizeWinston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-62728731442081338982013-11-18T21:05:58.262-05:002013-11-18T21:05:58.262-05:00MK,
Yeah, I totally feel ya on the (quasi-) veget...MK,<br /><br />Yeah, I totally feel ya on the (quasi-) vegetarianism/death penalty/abortion link. I've often reflected on the fact that the principles that drive so many feminists and others on the left toward vegetarianism and anti-death-penalty stances should make them at least think twice about abortion... In fact, a pro-abortion stance is probably the least easily-defended position thereWinston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-49540954407502823052013-11-16T10:53:10.025-05:002013-11-16T10:53:10.025-05:00I think you are incorrect in your categorization. ...I think you are incorrect in your categorization. "Feminist" doesn't imply "radical feminist", except for those few who are radical feminists, and those with excessive reaction against them. Joss Whedon is a classical feminist, and he doesn't yield the ground to an "academic vanguard". Again, the problem is an outgrowth of post-modernism, as for so many Pete Mackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675790226494153847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-83311809471523386212013-11-14T19:04:41.301-05:002013-11-14T19:04:41.301-05:00Also, I'm a Will Rogers Democrat.
Remembering...Also, I'm a Will Rogers Democrat.<br /><br />Remembering that helps keep me sane. :DRandom Michelle Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13817444379694818074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-82565926173115927042013-11-14T19:03:00.599-05:002013-11-14T19:03:00.599-05:00Yeah, I'm a giant bundle of, "wait... wha...Yeah, I'm a giant bundle of, "wait... what?"<br /><br />It just made no sense to me to refuse to eat mammals, buy only products that are not involved in animal testing, and purchase eggs and dairy that are pasture grown/raised/whatever but then believe that a potential baby had less worth than a calf or cow etc.<br /><br />Or that a convicted criminal cannot be executed by a 3 Random Michelle Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13817444379694818074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-8851068144038361962013-11-13T11:12:15.494-05:002013-11-13T11:12:15.494-05:00Whoa, a (in some sense) "pro-life" femin...Whoa, a (in some sense) "pro-life" feminist...holy crap, man...<br /><br />Ok, you definitely beat me in the feminist-at-heart-on-the-outs-with-feminism contest... Seriously. <br /><br />In a way, I guess it's that the wackaloons in feminism really bother me a lot, and bother me in ways that *really* bother me. I really do think that there is a kind of academic vanguard of feminism Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-50907833305511417722013-11-12T08:02:38.763-05:002013-11-12T08:02:38.763-05:00Well, it's obvious that these are good points,...Well, it's obvious that these are good points, of course, and I'm reflecting on them. I've got some counterpoints that have, to my mind at least, been keeping everything at a standstill for awhile in the civil war over this point in my head, but I haven't had time to type them out. Will do so soon...Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-88553800463022099602013-11-11T15:34:11.435-05:002013-11-11T15:34:11.435-05:00So, this is an honest question.
If there is no of...So, this is an honest question.<br /><br />If there is no official "group" for feminists, and if it is a set of ideals, then why not call yourself a feminist?<br /><br />I don't identify with the wackaloons, so why should you?<br /><br />If there is no "official" description of what a feminist is, then why allow the radicals (the C is important there. I was initially Random Michelle Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13817444379694818074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-14199311091059345012013-11-11T14:58:54.743-05:002013-11-11T14:58:54.743-05:00Ugh. Yeah, basically all the sane females I know i...Ugh. Yeah, basically all the sane females I know identify as feminists. I think it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do. JQ is literally the most reasonable human being I have ever met, and she identifies as a feminist, despite being very much cognizant of and opposed to the excesses of the radical fringe. <br /><br />I'm not at all happy with the fact that I don't consider myself a Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-63534212966490637392013-11-11T08:43:10.424-05:002013-11-11T08:43:10.424-05:00Here's what I don't quite get.
When did f...Here's what I don't quite get.<br /><br />When did feminism became a thing rather than an idea?<br /><br />I identify as a feminist because I've grown up female. <br /><br />I've experienced all the big and little things that means, from sexual assault to crossing the street if a male is walking behind me to the lack of self-esteem that comes from never being able to achieve an Random Michelle Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13817444379694818074noreply@blogger.com