tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post2363672420774850307..comments2024-03-26T12:23:29.784-04:00Comments on Philosoraptor: Did Trump Order Mueller Fired (And Then Back Off)?Winston Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-25121126074883823682018-01-26T16:07:38.581-05:002018-01-26T16:07:38.581-05:00WELL I'M MAD AT YOU M***ER F***ERWELL I'M MAD AT YOU M***ER F***ERWinston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-66449858467798462152018-01-26T14:39:15.106-05:002018-01-26T14:39:15.106-05:00lol!
I ain't maad at'cha!lol!<br /><br />I ain't maad at'cha!darius jedburghnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-42925028345024685022018-01-26T14:22:28.558-05:002018-01-26T14:22:28.558-05:00You're going to be waiting a long time, becaus...You're going to be waiting a long time, because I'm not going to waste time looking that up--I don't know and don't care (much) whether other cases exist. <br /><br />If you care about that point, then the burden falls on you to show that there are no such cases--but that seems like a waste of time to me.<br /><br />Anyway: I actually cannot believe you're being serious...but Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-49378591983562811102018-01-26T13:54:37.355-05:002018-01-26T13:54:37.355-05:00Still waiting for your surely easily-found example...Still waiting for your surely easily-found example of NYT & WP front-page banner headline stories that turned out to be as false as you are saying these could very well be on account of being nothing more than something they heard through the grapevine....<br /><br />Failing that, it's hard to see how you almost can't believe I'm being serious. Questions about seriousness would bedarius jedburghnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-55668450068814295562018-01-26T13:28:50.955-05:002018-01-26T13:28:50.955-05:00I almost can't believe you're being seriou...I almost can't believe you're being serious. Have you not been paying attention for the least 1.5-ish years? You're seriously arguing that there's little chance that the story is inaccurate in important details on the basis of the "two banner headlines" argument? <br /><br />I'm not even sure what's at stake here, since basically all we have to do is wait a week Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-74155221497928605372018-01-26T13:11:40.271-05:002018-01-26T13:11:40.271-05:00The story is that Trump only backed down because, ...The story is that Trump only backed down because, 'after receiving the president's order to fire Mueller', McGahn said he would resign 'rather than carry out the directive'. On your scenario that is simply untrue: Trump backed down merely because of the pleading of his toadies. Furthermore, there was no order or directive: 'ordered' (even if that were the only idiom indarius jedburghnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-76308749724066864562018-01-26T09:01:52.568-05:002018-01-26T09:01:52.568-05:00TDSDSDS!!!
So...you're saying what? Not that ...TDSDSDS!!!<br /><br />So...you're saying what? Not that it's implausible that Trump flipped his shit and threw a tantrum, surely... Are you saying that it's impossible that McGahn heard it through the grapevine and basically said "I'm out, motherfucker, if that happens." And the whole time Trump's toadies are trying to explain to him that he's dropping The Big Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-66874483100951448862018-01-26T08:48:29.764-05:002018-01-26T08:48:29.764-05:00TDSDS.
It's no more plausible that he just ha...TDSDS.<br /><br />It's no more plausible that he just had a tantrum than that the story was made up out of whole cloth, since no mere tantrum (which would presumably elicit mere eye-rolling from his entourage) would have led McGahn to threaten resignation. So then <i>that</i> part of the story, and the claim that Trump had <i>ordered</i> the firing, would have been made up out of whole cloth. darius jedburghnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-58778688255010896232018-01-26T08:34:55.199-05:002018-01-26T08:34:55.199-05:00Yeah, I actually do think it's a real possibil...Yeah, I actually do think it's a real possibility. <br /><br />In fact, I almost don't trust anything either paper says about Trump anymore unless the story holds up for a couple of weeks. <br /><br />I will be exactly not at all surprised if the truth turns out to be something more like: Trump flipped his shit and threw a tantrum in which he said, basically: Will no one rid me of this Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-30246605015465821792018-01-26T07:50:41.611-05:002018-01-26T07:50:41.611-05:00'Maybe'?
Do you think it's a real pos...'Maybe'?<br /><br />Do you think it's a real possibility that the Times and the Post would have gone with almost simultaneous, categorical front-page banner headlines if it might have been just made up? When would be the last time that happened?<br /><br />Don't you think that if the story turned out to be false, it would precipitate an unprecedented crisis and mass firings at darius jedburghnoreply@blogger.com