tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post116334218576436802..comments2024-03-26T12:23:29.784-04:00Comments on Philosoraptor: Winston Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1163994500451261712006-11-19T22:48:00.000-05:002006-11-19T22:48:00.000-05:00I have two problems with the CBS opinion piece:- I...I have two problems with the CBS opinion piece:<BR/><BR/>- Isn't it the media's job to call a duck a duck <I>in real time</I>, not years <B>after</B> the voters would have been well served? Or are the emperor's new clothes beneath the comment of the lapdog pundits - until they have someone new to suck up to?<BR/><BR/>- Why should we care whether the House is led by "weirdos"? If journalists Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1163819825061166722006-11-17T22:17:00.000-05:002006-11-17T22:17:00.000-05:00Consider what someone who covered Congress for man...Consider what someone who covered Congress for many years had to say when finally freed from the yoke of faux-fairness that has generated mountains of 'on the one-hand' BS:<BR/><BR/>http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/15/opinion/meyer/main2182755.shtml<BR/><BR/>There simply is no match for the utter depravity and hypocrisy of the past twelve years of Republican rule, particularly in the House.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1163814269118657502006-11-17T20:44:00.000-05:002006-11-17T20:44:00.000-05:00That's three fact-free posts in a row that you've ...That's three fact-free posts in a row that you've hammered me with, WS. My point is that the Republicans appeared to have been worse. Your point is that they were far, far worse. You are right and I'm wrong, and you won't give up until I unconditionally surrender.<BR/><BR/>The question of degree is a value, not a fact, of course, but if you poke through that Rolling Stone screed that presents Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1163776345967373102006-11-17T10:12:00.000-05:002006-11-17T10:12:00.000-05:00See, were I a pettier person than I actually am, I...See, were I a pettier person than I actually am, I'd point out that one can see that your claim there is incorrect, and that even a casual perusal of the above discussion shows that.<BR/><BR/>But then you wouldn't get the last word...and we know what would happen then...Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1163707379872110052006-11-16T15:02:00.000-05:002006-11-16T15:02:00.000-05:00Well, you've declared yourself right and me wrong....Well, you've declared yourself right and me wrong. As to who is insistently beating whom over the head without offering facts, we shall leave to the fates to decide. Cheers.Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1163679281189915292006-11-16T07:14:00.000-05:002006-11-16T07:14:00.000-05:00Give it up, Tom. Mere insistence isn't going to w...Give it up, Tom. Mere insistence isn't going to work. Consider the point, and either present pertinent evidence or don't. But don't waste my time with this crap, please.<BR/><BR/>I can only point out what the real point is here so many times. I'm not going to keep doing it.<BR/><BR/>Posting more and more links that don't address the actual issue isn't going to change anything.Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1163540187552246982006-11-14T16:36:00.000-05:002006-11-14T16:36:00.000-05:00And an admittedly right-wing source *asserts* that...<I>And an admittedly right-wing source *asserts* that in *one respect* the Dems have at some times been as bad as--but not worse than--the GOP.</I><BR/><BR/>That link was from the <I>Washington Post</I>.<BR/><BR/>As for daring to suggest that things aren't so black and white, that it takes two to tango and the Democrats may have been more obstreperous in opposition than the pre-1994 GOPs were, I Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1163531743870696842006-11-14T14:15:00.000-05:002006-11-14T14:15:00.000-05:00Admittedly from a left-wing source:http://www.roll...Admittedly from a left-wing source:<BR/><BR/>http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/worst_congress_ever/page/1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1163512747924403112006-11-14T08:59:00.000-05:002006-11-14T08:59:00.000-05:00Um, why think that the other side of the story is ...Um, why think that the other side of the story is any different than the story we know?<BR/><BR/>Our best evidence indicates that, as you've admitted, the GOP leadership has been worse.<BR/><BR/>We have no evidence that that's wrong, so vague, hand-waving references to possibly possibly possible other sides of the story which may or may not be accurate and may or may not tell us something Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1163470594515650032006-11-13T21:16:00.000-05:002006-11-13T21:16:00.000-05:00I'm wary of claims that one's own side is inherent...I'm wary of claims that one's own side is inherently more virtuous than their opponents.<BR/><BR/>I allowed that the batch of Republicans who were just turned out did appear to be worse than the Democrats they themselves turned out, primarily (and exclusively, really, because they had a lot of gamesmanship in common) for the manipulation of the legislative process itself. There may be another Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1163429793110705502006-11-13T09:56:00.000-05:002006-11-13T09:56:00.000-05:00Another uniquely Republican sin: The refusal to a...Another uniquely Republican sin: The refusal to allow Democrats into conference committee meetings in many cases.<BR/><BR/>Just punishment by the new Democratic leadership: No conference committee assignments for <B>any</B> of the previous Congress's Republican leadership, including committee and subcommittee chairs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1163423339488840312006-11-13T08:08:00.000-05:002006-11-13T08:08:00.000-05:00Yes, the GOP was worse--way worse. On the other h...Yes, the GOP was worse--way worse. On the other hand, they were way worse, but for a shorter period of time. I've often thought that lower levels of abuse for longer periods of time can be just as bad as higher levels for shorter periods.<BR/><BR/>Though the "Indiana 8th" business was pretty bad...<BR/><BR/>Things will certainly get better, as the Dem leadership is neither as mean-spirited nor Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1163379974589285482006-11-12T20:06:00.000-05:002006-11-12T20:06:00.000-05:00Of course, this is nothing new. The colors have ju...<A HREF="http://www.courant.com/news/nationworld/hc-revenge1110.artnov10,0,5761727.story?page=1&coll=hc-headlines-nationworld" REL="nofollow">Of course, this is nothing new.</A> The colors have just reversed again.<BR/><BR/>It does seem the GOP were even worse than the Demos in some respects, and they have some abuse coming for what they did to Clinton.<BR/><BR/>We shall see if the spiral Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1163372680068735192006-11-12T18:04:00.000-05:002006-11-12T18:04:00.000-05:00It seems that Bush is afraid that the Dems can do ...It seems that Bush is afraid that the Dems <I>can</I> do something about him. Why else would he quietly send Jenna to purchase real estate in Paraguay (where he would be immune from national and international criminal charges) shortly before this election?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1163365633457035442006-11-12T16:07:00.000-05:002006-11-12T16:07:00.000-05:00Now that's a damn fine idea, S.Now that's a damn fine idea, S.Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1163363448902652062006-11-12T15:30:00.000-05:002006-11-12T15:30:00.000-05:00Perhaps stamping Republican copies of legislation ...Perhaps stamping Republican copies of legislation "This copy is brought to you by the fairness of the Democrats in Congress, who are more Christian than those who would deny copies to their opponents."<BR/><BR/>Meeting rooms could have a copy of something similar posted on the door and placed at each seat within. Two years of that should be interestingly obnoxious.Scorpiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16557033893517627559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1163344487904610592006-11-12T10:14:00.000-05:002006-11-12T10:14:00.000-05:00IMO, just returning sanity and civility to the ins...IMO, just returning sanity and civility to the institution would itself be a sort of retaliation, but I wouldn't expect the Republicans to be perceptive enough to recognize it. "Heap[ing] coals of fire on his head" has little effect on true numbskulls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com