tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post115912737191559760..comments2024-03-26T12:23:29.784-04:00Comments on Philosoraptor: Winston Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1159990919502792102006-10-04T15:41:00.000-04:002006-10-04T15:41:00.000-04:00Yes, made a hash of it is an accurate description....Yes, made a hash of it is an accurate description.<BR/><BR/>But thank you.Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1159956557667442622006-10-04T06:09:00.000-04:002006-10-04T06:09:00.000-04:00Seeing as someone else has made a hash of your 'po...Seeing as someone else has made a hash of your 'point' and 'facts' there, I refuse to indulge your gluttony for punishment, or 'gang-up' on you so that you can play the martyr card in return.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1159907652911495602006-10-03T16:34:00.000-04:002006-10-03T16:34:00.000-04:00Well, you didn't respond to the other one either, ...Well, you didn't respond to the other one either, so what's the difference?Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1159852922612408042006-10-03T01:22:00.000-04:002006-10-03T01:22:00.000-04:00Points and facts haven't been a priority on this t...Points and facts haven't been a priority on this thread, but your habit of making a statement and asking others to do the heavy lifting neccessary to back it up could be replaced by employing points and facts more often than in the past.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1159815015790295352006-10-02T14:50:00.000-04:002006-10-02T14:50:00.000-04:00Yes, but the difference is that my comment had a p...Yes, but the difference is that my comment had a point. And facts.Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1159750584353202382006-10-01T20:56:00.000-04:002006-10-01T20:56:00.000-04:00Neither is telling people to break free of their c...Neither is telling people to break free of their cocoons, as you remarked in another thread.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1159747558438680152006-10-01T20:05:00.000-04:002006-10-01T20:05:00.000-04:00No need to characterize my arguments. That is not...No need to characterize my arguments. That is not argument either.Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1159742460451934382006-10-01T18:41:00.000-04:002006-10-01T18:41:00.000-04:00tvd, I accept Clinton at his word, and you do not....tvd, I accept Clinton at his word, and you do not.<BR/><BR/>Therefore, when you question his statements, you are obligated to demonstrate the facts and logic behind your questioning.<BR/><BR/><I>that you're unfamiliar with any challenges to former President Clinton's assertions about his record to Chris Wallace</I><BR/><BR/>Correction: I am unaware of any successful challenges of his statements Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1159687198845238892006-10-01T03:19:00.000-04:002006-10-01T03:19:00.000-04:00I take it, then, by your denounciations of website...I take it, then, by your denounciations of websites that are not congenial to your worldview (altho they're not on my "A" list either) that you're unfamiliar with any challenges to former President Clinton's assertions about his record to Chris Wallace. So be it.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, tho I don't know what's in the <I>Stigmata</I> movie, you're correct: I had leafed through Thomas while Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1159672421055216922006-09-30T23:13:00.000-04:002006-09-30T23:13:00.000-04:00Sorry Tom, if you can't find facts to support your...Sorry Tom, if you can't find facts to support your POV that Clinton made falsifiable statements and worse in the interview, it is not needful that I take up this burden for you.<BR/><BR/><I>nothing really out of line with mainstream Christianity.</I><BR/><BR/>Ever see the movie <B>Stigmata</B>?<BR/><BR/>If you can find a Protestant minister to preach on a text from it upon a Sunday, that would beAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1159654961978996012006-09-30T18:22:00.000-04:002006-09-30T18:22:00.000-04:00So how's your research going so far? Surely you'r...So how's your research going so far? Surely you're seeking out counterarguments to the position you're already familiar with. Please do report back.<BR/><BR/>Gospel of Thomas is pretty boring---nothing really out of line with mainstream Christianity. Certainly nothing as radical as newsmax.Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1159575684824660582006-09-29T20:21:00.000-04:002006-09-29T20:21:00.000-04:00Falsification requires research, so it's the exact...Falsification requires research, so it's the exact opposite of the situation you describe.<BR/><BR/>and<BR/><BR/>Yes, much as many Christians these days would declare the Gospel of Thomas a heretical text if they knew of it.<BR/><BR/>And your point is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1159569103999588632006-09-29T18:31:00.000-04:002006-09-29T18:31:00.000-04:00I remember once being entreated not to read a cert...I remember once being entreated not to read a certain newspaper lest it might change my opinion upon free-trade. "Lest I might be entrapped by its fallacies and misstatements," was the form of expression. "You are not," my friend said, "a special student of political economy. You might, therefore, easily be deceived by fallacious arguments upon the subject. You might, then, if you read this paperTom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1159445636206105712006-09-28T08:13:00.000-04:002006-09-28T08:13:00.000-04:00I've yet to see any falsification done on the stat...I've yet to see any falsification done on the statements that Clinton made, while Condilair has told the media a lie that is clearly contradicted by the 9/11 Commission report,<BR/><BR/>Perhaps tvd is right that only a fisking, done already on an editorial on newswacx.com or powerlesslineblog.org can be a relevant response in this situation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1159232760852524392006-09-25T21:06:00.000-04:002006-09-25T21:06:00.000-04:00I myself don't have much good to say about the GOP...I myself don't have much good to say about the GOP before Buckley and Reagan.<BR/><BR/>I'm sure I'd have been more of a <A HREF="http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-singer100402.asp" REL="nofollow">Harry Truman Democrat.</A> ;-)<BR/><BR/>As for Clinton's performance on Sunday, he has a good fisking coming, but I'm not the guy to do it. I thought he was an OK president, altho I'm not Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1159229739332502152006-09-25T20:15:00.000-04:002006-09-25T20:15:00.000-04:00Good man, great soldier, decent president, but was...Good man, great soldier, decent president, but was he a Republican? He earned his reputation as a non-partisan military leader, to the extent that there was much speculation as to whether he would run as a Democrat or Republican. Much more representative of what the GOP stood for in the 50s are Joe McCarthy and VP Dick Nixon, and that ain't noble.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1159192942787494202006-09-25T10:02:00.000-04:002006-09-25T10:02:00.000-04:00How about Eisenhower?How about Eisenhower?Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1159141666248117082006-09-24T19:47:00.000-04:002006-09-24T19:47:00.000-04:00Uh...when you say "noble GOP," you mean Lincoln, r...Uh...when you say "noble GOP," you mean Lincoln, right? Has any (successful) American political party come close to deserving to be called "noble?" Are successful and noble more or less mutually exclusive in politics?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com