tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post114004405009686906..comments2024-03-26T12:23:29.784-04:00Comments on Philosoraptor: Winston Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1140132615912355572006-02-16T18:30:00.000-05:002006-02-16T18:30:00.000-05:00I've had trouble with the simple "do as I say, not...I've had trouble with the simple "do as I say, not as I do" as a blanket definition of hypocrisy.<BR/><BR/>We all (most of us) have standards that, being human, we don't always meet. Under the above definition, we're all hypocrites at some point.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps that's sufficient.<BR/><BR/>But I require someone <I>actively</I> condemning others, and on a personal level, for not meeting Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1140103685962415162006-02-16T10:28:00.000-05:002006-02-16T10:28:00.000-05:00Winston and Tom,I think that hypocrisy is a much m...Winston and Tom,<BR/><BR/>I think that hypocrisy is a much more personally discrete charge; the premise is simply that one professes beliefs which are belied by his actions.<BR/><BR/>I therefore think that tu quoque arguments are a subset, or specific example, of hypocrisy. A justified charge of hypocrisy does not require that the accused have criticized someone else in the past for similar Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1140103076296495432006-02-16T10:17:00.000-05:002006-02-16T10:17:00.000-05:00Jimmy Doyle? THE Jimmy Doyle of philosophy fame?T...Jimmy Doyle? THE Jimmy Doyle of philosophy fame?<BR/><BR/>Tom:<BR/>Actually I think that *tu quoque*s are way complicated, in part because of the vagueness of the fallacy, in part because of the vagueness of what's usually being asserted when the charge is made, and so forth. If the charge is just hypocrisy, then it's not a fallacy, though it may be false or unfair. In this case I'm rather Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1140055285445836092006-02-15T21:01:00.000-05:002006-02-15T21:01:00.000-05:00What is the difference between committing the tu q...What is the difference between committing the <I>tu quoque</I> fallacy and charging someone with hypocrisy?<BR/><BR/>Because when Reynolds writes about "Hillary Clinton complaining about this Administration's secretiveness, as if we'd forgotten the health care task force, the Rose Law Firm billing records, etc.," he seems to be saying, "Hillary, where do you get off condemning Cheney for Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1140048975520306092006-02-15T19:16:00.000-05:002006-02-15T19:16:00.000-05:00I gots ta take issue with ya there, 'Raptor. 'Inst...I gots ta take issue with ya there, 'Raptor. 'Insty' is too as bad as some folks say.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1140044929344746132006-02-15T18:08:00.000-05:002006-02-15T18:08:00.000-05:00Instapundit shredded. Then the shreds shredded.<A HREF="http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/02/why-ann-coulter-matters.html" REL="nofollow">Instapundit shredded</A>. Then the shreds shredded.rilkefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01189347779617969628noreply@blogger.com