tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post111779990456535302..comments2024-03-26T12:23:29.784-04:00Comments on Philosoraptor: Winston Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1117983303671396512005-06-05T10:55:00.000-04:002005-06-05T10:55:00.000-04:00Anonymous,Oh, and dude, don't pull that reverse in...Anonymous,<BR/>Oh, and dude, don't pull that reverse intellectual discrimination bit on me, o.k.? If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I hate that "well, YOU'RE so frickin' SMART Mr. P-H-D that you can't see this think that normal people can see" bit. I don't think I every claimed to be smarter than average. <BR/><BR/>Other than that, I think your point's a good one. I didn't say that there weren't Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1117983076594496802005-06-05T10:51:00.000-04:002005-06-05T10:51:00.000-04:00I'm with you on that score, MK.I'm with you on that score, MK.Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1117978164478858182005-06-05T09:29:00.000-04:002005-06-05T09:29:00.000-04:00Perhaps it's just me, but I'm bothered by the mist...Perhaps it's just me, but I'm bothered by the mistreatment of <I>any</I> book, be it the Quran, the Torah, or Webster's Dictionary.<BR/><BR/>I hate those creepy people who stand on campus handing out mini versions of "The New Testament" because then I'm stuck with a book that I don't know what to do with: throwing it away seems wrong, but I certainly don't have any interest in keeping it.<BR/><BRRandom Michelle Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13817444379694818074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1117916986449050282005-06-04T16:29:00.000-04:002005-06-04T16:29:00.000-04:00So that's what I get for trying to help you out, e...So that's what I get for trying to help you out, eh, <I>rilke</I>? Even when I'm with you, you're against me.Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1117892516629528812005-06-04T09:41:00.000-04:002005-06-04T09:41:00.000-04:00Back to the point of the post, the crime isn't int...Back to the point of the post, the crime isn't intrinsic to the idea of mishandling a holy book. The crime is that we made a big point of saying we were going to respect their religion and we didn't. Again, I'm not sure why this is so frickin' hard for people to understand. It really shouldn't be.<BR/><BR/>If you make a huge point of something and then you turn around and do the opposite - on Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1117864836679549812005-06-04T02:00:00.000-04:002005-06-04T02:00:00.000-04:00tvd, I was shooting more for "worst nightmare", bu...<B>tvd</B>, I was shooting more for "worst nightmare", but "nemesis" is ok, esp. if you could prepend an "arch". And if you get tortured by my govt by being subjected to art, I will certainly protest.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, my actual attitude is that only physics has any truth and these arguments about morals and ethics and so forth are ill-defined. But in any case, <B>Winston</B> probably wants to rilkefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01189347779617969628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1117847618776262722005-06-03T21:13:00.000-04:002005-06-03T21:13:00.000-04:00I think I follow rilkefan, who is an occasional ne...I think I follow <I>rilkefan</I>, who is an occasional nemesis. You just gotta get your multicultural groove on.<BR/><BR/>Philosophically, I think the proper stance is always agnosticism; to declare the Bible or the Qur'an false is an assertion that cannot be logically proven, since you can't prove a negative.<BR/><BR/>Further, as children of the Enlightenment, we superior beings grant respect Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1117827425121276932005-06-03T15:37:00.000-04:002005-06-03T15:37:00.000-04:00Man, you're, like, blowing my mind.Man, you're, like, blowing my mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1117824921064240202005-06-03T14:55:00.000-04:002005-06-03T14:55:00.000-04:00"EVERY GODDAMN CULTURE ON EARTH has a taboo agains..."EVERY GODDAMN CULTURE ON EARTH has a taboo against murder."<BR/><BR/>What's murder, exactly? Joshua wasn't ordered by his god to murder both man and woman, young and old, just to kill them.rilkefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01189347779617969628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1117822738542395992005-06-03T14:18:00.000-04:002005-06-03T14:18:00.000-04:00rilkefan,c'mon, dude, you can't be serious with th...rilkefan,<BR/><BR/>c'mon, dude, you can't be serious with this shit. It doesn't hold up for a second: the difference we're dealing with is that American culture doesn't revere the koran but muslim cultures do: EVERY GODDAMN CULTURE ON EARTH has a taboo against murder. <BR/><BR/>For the most part, I agree with Winston: I happen to find both Christianity and Islam horribly obnoxious and damaging Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-1117819314122496432005-06-03T13:21:00.000-04:002005-06-03T13:21:00.000-04:00I don't see why the above argument wouldn't be app...I don't see why the above argument wouldn't be applicable by a culture which had a different view of the value of individual lives than we do. "Sure we killed the prisoners we took, but so what if they have superstitions about H. Sapiens bodies? Killing a few of them doesn't affect their society, which is the important thing." Or why the above doesn't reduce to "religion is stupid and should rilkefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01189347779617969628noreply@blogger.com