tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post8959875007627981481..comments2024-03-26T12:23:29.784-04:00Comments on Philosoraptor: Trump's "Anti-Semitic" TweetWinston Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-71559813046755622652016-07-06T22:43:52.030-04:002016-07-06T22:43:52.030-04:00Mystic, you're just wrong. You're just cle...Mystic, you're just wrong. You're just clearly, obviously, irrefutably, undeniably, unambiguously wrong. Ok, ok, I'll stop being a jerk. But you do protest too strongly. A better argument would be something along the lines of: tweeting the image may have been a mistake since Trump's social media staff didn't notice how this image could be interpreted as being anti-semitic. It Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-59401427112319271392016-07-05T14:34:03.643-04:002016-07-05T14:34:03.643-04:00It seems pretty simple to me: this evidence is fa...It seems pretty simple to me: this evidence is far too flimsy to conclude racist intent. It's a geometric shape which resembles the Star of David.<br /><br />That's it. There's no explicit reference to Jewish people. Hillary is not a Jewish person. There is no critique of anything other than Hillary's purported money-based corruption.<br /><br />You might argue, and you mightThe Mystichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00813641115915460692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-49855163722605999102016-07-05T12:05:23.411-04:002016-07-05T12:05:23.411-04:00I sort of switched sides on this a bit but now I&#...I sort of switched sides on this a bit but now I'm back to something like: you'd need more than the image itself to justify a charge of antisemitism. <br /><br />We got that something else when we were informed that the Trump folks got it form a white supremacist website. <br /><br />But then I read that that's incorrect. Rather, it *appeared* early on a site that had lots of Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-56584955270278477042016-07-05T11:55:07.479-04:002016-07-05T11:55:07.479-04:00My point was that the mere use of a geometric figu...My point was that the mere use of a geometric figure resembling a Jewish icon along with absolutely no additional context even suggesting anti-Semitism whatsoever, is not obviously and overtly anti-Semitic. <br /><br />To allege that it is so, seems to me, to be at worst unwarranted and hypersensitive and at best a rhetorical mistake.The Mystichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00813641115915460692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-80880002131492389202016-07-05T07:10:35.377-04:002016-07-05T07:10:35.377-04:00Also, he has a well-established pattern of linking...Also, he has a well-established pattern of linking HRC to corruption, whereas he seems to have no history of antisemitism. <br /><br />Which means the Hilary/corruption angle of the thing is a better explanation of why he "tweeted" (egad) it than the antisemitic angle.Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-47528367406889036362016-07-05T07:08:23.507-04:002016-07-05T07:08:23.507-04:00A,
Sure, that's the concern obviously...I jus...A,<br /><br />Sure, that's the concern obviously...I just don't buy it. I think that Trump's inclination--and it's reflected in his campaign--is to just spew out attacks on his opponents. He is, first and foremost, a loudmouth and an asshole. Well..those are two things...but anyway... He will say absolutely any bad thing he can think of about his opponents. And he's got a Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-24147031775165970442016-07-04T21:35:02.846-04:002016-07-04T21:35:02.846-04:00Mystic, you didn't make much sense to me with ...Mystic, you didn't make much sense to me with that comment. The critique of Trump is that he's now sending anti-semitic messages as part of his campaign. You mentioned a "dog whistle". Bingo! So what's the problem? If this critique attracts more racists and white supremacists to Trump, then I guess I can live with that. I can't exactly blame them. He's their Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-51926675867224959762016-07-04T15:52:51.350-04:002016-07-04T15:52:51.350-04:00Here's what I think:
1. Since when is HRC Jew...Here's what I think:<br /><br />1. Since when is HRC Jewish? <br /><br />2. I could have looked at that thing all day and not thought it was anti-Semitic...largely because of 1. <br /><br />3. But...it also appears at an antisemitic site, where, I take it, the anti-Semitic angle is intentional. In fact it's the point. <br /><br />so<br />4. There's no denying that the intention Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-16460894506188217512016-07-04T12:23:33.167-04:002016-07-04T12:23:33.167-04:00There's nothing you can do to stop it now, Jed...There's nothing you can do to stop it now, Jedburgh. <br /><br />[produces white cat; pets it evilly.]<br />I have dozens of readers! DOZENS! <br /><br />And with my plans for that laser base on the moon... Victory for Trump is assured!Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-24906457890512646392016-07-04T12:10:13.297-04:002016-07-04T12:10:13.297-04:00I knew it!I <i>knew</i> it!Darius Jedburghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09028414267561210359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-25621472854025289902016-07-04T09:15:31.807-04:002016-07-04T09:15:31.807-04:00Ha ha! [rips off shirt to reveal Make America Grea...Ha ha! [rips off shirt to reveal Make America Great Again shirt underneath] finally I can reveal my evil plan!Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-33335706417016991902016-07-03T20:12:21.613-04:002016-07-03T20:12:21.613-04:00So wait, what's the critique of Trump here? T...So wait, what's the critique of Trump here? That he employed an anti-Hillary graphic which is, itself, only in the vaguest possible way related to anti-Semitism, but which appears to have been extracted from a site (at some point in the chain of events leading to Trump's possession of it) wherein one can find a lot of content which is clearly anti-Semitic?<br /><br />I agree with you The Mystichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00813641115915460692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-38604433795269352262016-07-03T15:11:36.581-04:002016-07-03T15:11:36.581-04:00I think there are a lot of Jews who didn't hav...I think there are a lot of Jews who didn't have to look at that image long to see what it was about, but I noticed that Lewondowski said on CNN today that outrage about the Star of David tweet is just "political correctness". Since this blog has become so focused on attacking political correctness, I think a fair question is when calling critics of statement X "PC" is Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-26361324270052172952016-07-03T15:06:27.305-04:002016-07-03T15:06:27.305-04:00'10 days earlier, the same graphic appeared on...'10 days earlier, the same graphic appeared on an Internet message board loaded with anti-Semitic conspiracy theories and neo-Nazi ideology.'<br /><br />So the six-pointed star thing is just a coincidence? I know there's such a thing as being oversensitive, and there's a lot of it about; but there's also such a thing as being undersensitive, and unattuned to a standard tactic Darius Jedburghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09028414267561210359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-15074945066241101152016-07-03T12:28:44.413-04:002016-07-03T12:28:44.413-04:00Oh THAT'S what they're talking about! I l...Oh THAT'S what they're talking about! I looked at that tweet for like 2 solid minutes trying to figure out what I was missing that made it anti-semitic.<br /><br />I see.The Mystichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00813641115915460692noreply@blogger.com