tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post6966712565858207637..comments2024-03-26T12:23:29.784-04:00Comments on Philosoraptor: Kevin Drum on What to Think about SnowdenWinston Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-42445449148269396422013-08-27T08:05:05.679-04:002013-08-27T08:05:05.679-04:00I don't know what to say about all this, in pa...I don't know what to say about all this, in particular about the Mystic's query... <br /><br />But, *pace* Thoreau and King, I have to agree with Jimmy... It just can't be right that we must/can prosecute someone for doing the right thing, can it? There just can't be *that* kind of separation between morality and the law...can there?Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-46909724837115001032013-08-26T16:53:05.056-04:002013-08-26T16:53:05.056-04:00Well, presumption of innocence requires proof beyo...Well, presumption of innocence requires proof beyond reasonable doubt that Snowden had other motives than whistleblowing. And while I know that whistleblowing law has specific exemptions "government security" secrets", that does not mean that it should. If Snowden does get convicted, a reasonably enlightened President would pardon him after a short imprisonment.<br /><br />Yeah, pmmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07321359255930976499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-91766301049691333492013-08-25T21:54:29.747-04:002013-08-25T21:54:29.747-04:00Total sophistry. It's not a matter of 'lik...Total sophistry. It's not a matter of 'liking the results' of what Snowden did. He has exposed a massive amount of state-sanctioned wrongdoing, ie in the sense of activity very clearly violating the fourth amendment. (Almost certainly what we know at this point is just the tip of a very large iceberg.) Releasing classified material can't be considered criminal *no matter what it Jimmy Doylenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-68945346782441590542013-08-22T07:25:50.151-04:002013-08-22T07:25:50.151-04:00In related news, how do you feel about Bradley Man...In related news, how do you feel about Bradley Manning's sentencing? Sure, he broke his oath to his fellow troops, blah blah blah, and I suppose that's not nothing. But on the other hand, the sentencing simply seems to be a harsh warning that says something like: we, as a country, are less interested in truth and justice than we are keeping up the increasing shattered illusion that we'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-46947645915270693892013-08-21T14:08:04.512-04:002013-08-21T14:08:04.512-04:00Not to flood your blog with my posts, but I'm ...Not to flood your blog with my posts, but I'm still not sure what we learned specifically because of Snowden. I refer you to an article to which you yourself linked and which Drum wrote: http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/06/so-far-we-havent-learned-much-nsa-leaks<br /><br />I'm not following this story real closely largely because I have yet to read anything that seems to me The Mystichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00813641115915460692noreply@blogger.com