tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post1017570583998133941..comments2024-03-26T12:23:29.784-04:00Comments on Philosoraptor: Zimmerman VerdictWinston Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-39261700781347166842013-07-15T13:38:01.667-04:002013-07-15T13:38:01.667-04:00You know, I think it would be a matter of common s...You know, I think it would be a matter of common sense that when a LEO gives you a suggestion, unless following it would lead to a risk of loss of property, limb, or life, one would follow that suggestion.<br /><br />Also, Winston, there's a lot of stuff on the right that Martin was some sort of master supercriminal who was going to use the skittles and tea with cough syrup to make some sort Dark Avengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02220642215040873632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-34603698496382090972013-07-14T19:25:38.398-04:002013-07-14T19:25:38.398-04:00An unarmed kid on foot followed by an armed man in...An unarmed kid on foot followed by an armed man in a car and then accosted by said armed man is likely the initiator of the physical attack?<br /><br />Question: What was Trayvon supposed to do? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-49282594982976900702013-07-14T16:23:19.183-04:002013-07-14T16:23:19.183-04:00I'm slowly working through the events here, ai...I'm slowly working through the events here, aiming to get to that.<br /><br />Though I'd be happy for hearing your reasons for thinking that Zimmerman is mostly likely to have initiated the physical attack.Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-55287817454452467412013-07-14T16:18:28.394-04:002013-07-14T16:18:28.394-04:00Gah, correction of my correction: The lawyer'...Gah, correction of my correction: The lawyer's name is Andrew Branca (I knew I should've double checked it before I hit submit).The Mystichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00813641115915460692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-70719118971411340932013-07-14T16:16:25.600-04:002013-07-14T16:16:25.600-04:001) I was hopefully clearly joking in my last post...1) I was hopefully clearly joking in my last post, but I just wanted to point out that the guy's name is Andrew Bronca, not "Bronco." I thought that was some sort of pseudonym chosen by a guy writing on a website with a name somewhat characteristic of conspiracy theorist sites.<br /><br />So my joke isn't so funny if it's the guy's actual name. The point remains, The Mystichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00813641115915460692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-61663455532723432282013-07-14T16:04:07.894-04:002013-07-14T16:04:07.894-04:00Legal Insurrection is actually one of the blogs I&...Legal Insurrection is actually one of the blogs I've read on this case, but I got bad vibes from it. I know what the left-wing orthodoxy is, and I know what the right-wing orthodoxy is, and I'm trying to avoid anybody hawking either. I'm not saying Bronco is wrong, but I've been fleeing from sites that seem partisan to me.Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-86639905112642250672013-07-14T15:58:45.537-04:002013-07-14T15:58:45.537-04:00Somehow, a lawyer named "Bronco" from &q...Somehow, a lawyer named "Bronco" from "legal insurrection.com" just doesn't strike me as something that would clear up all doubt about events which occurred largely without anyone aside from the defendant and the dead guy seeing them...The Mystichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00813641115915460692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-73634218715667657722013-07-14T12:13:49.518-04:002013-07-14T12:13:49.518-04:00If you want a careful account of what happened, go...If you want a careful account of what happened, go to legalinsurrection. The trial was covered in detail from day one by a lawyer named Bronco who is an expert of the law of self-defense and has written a book on the subject. That should settle your doubts about the events leading up to the shooting.Bacon Attacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-17080004247013925522013-07-14T11:55:33.564-04:002013-07-14T11:55:33.564-04:00I agree with the proposition that Zimmerman is lar...I agree with the proposition that Zimmerman is largely innocent if Martin attacked Zimmerman without receiving legally justifying provocation. I also agree that Zimmerman's initiation of physical hostilities would make this pretty open-and-shut.<br /><br />I really don't know what there is to disagree with there. I think we're on the same page.<br /><br />Additionally, based on yourThe Mystichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00813641115915460692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-20379905855309624702013-07-14T11:20:33.939-04:002013-07-14T11:20:33.939-04:00Incidentally, I've agreed with many of your po...Incidentally, I've agreed with many of your points on this case thus far, M.Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-20525512208484717202013-07-14T11:19:56.860-04:002013-07-14T11:19:56.860-04:00Could we first discuss the conditional?
I doubt I...Could we first discuss the conditional?<br /><br />I doubt I can even secure agreement here to the proposition that Zimmerman is largely innocent IF Martin initiated physical hostilities.<br /><br />If Zimmerman initiated them, then it's an open-and-shut case, morally speaking, right? Or close to it...Winston Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780746334199630779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5264937.post-66636692315409721782013-07-14T11:08:54.194-04:002013-07-14T11:08:54.194-04:00Why do you think it's most likely that Martin ...Why do you think it's most likely that Martin initiated the physical attack?The Mystichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00813641115915460692noreply@blogger.com